PCN at McDonalds Mondial Way South Hayes

[Bio1]

Overstaying 60 minute limit but was in the establishment the whole time and have receipts. Do I contest or not and how? I know many are always asking this but they sent the notice in time but also only sent to me as registered keeper and do not know who the driver was, help!

[ostell]

So post up the redacted PCN, leaving the dates.

Have you asked the driver to go in and complaining to the management, together with those receipts?

[Bio1]

So post up the redacted PCN, leaving the dates.

Have you asked the driver to go in and complaining to the management, together with those receipts?

The driver does not live in the area so are unable to complain to management. They have tried to telephone but cannot get through.

[charitynjw]

Tbh I can't see a legal argument to this one.
There seems to be adequate site signage clearly stating the 60 minutes stay.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4814...2!9m2!1b1!2i50
Do you have any pics of the signs inside the car park?

[Bio1]

The signs are not entirely clear on entry and on the day of the PCN there were high-sided vehicles obstructing signs (photo 1) and where the driver parked in photos 3 & 4 there are no signs visible at all so if one left from there and entered the building it would be possible to miss the signs. Also there are no signs on entry to the building which is the direction most people would be looking on leaving their car? Also as the driver was on a long journey and was stopping for safety reasons to reduce fatigue before an on-going journey and have receipts to show purchases in the establishement for the extended period, can these be seen as mitigating circumstances or not? Thanks.

[charitynjw]

I can only give my opinion, but with the clear signs at the entrance which direct the driver to the main signs in the carpark, it would be a bit of an uphill struggle to convince a judge that the signs weren't prominent enough.

[charitynjw]

I can only give my opinion, but with the clear signs at the entrance which direct the driver to the main signs in the carpark, it would be a bit of an uphill struggle to convince a judge that the signs weren't prominent enough.

As for the 'fatigue' argument, this would be a mitigating reason rather than a legal argument.
But I do know of one instance where a court has accepted it.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...rister-85-fine