Should she go down?

[Paule]

Re: Should she go down?

Also it should be noted that merely pulling yourself forcefully from the grip of police officer can be construed as assaulting that officer

Can arrest you for less than that as well

[Amy]

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I have no brief for the likes of Ms Campbell or any other of these ‘celebs’ but I have to say I'm sorry about some of the comments regarding Campbell which I think are appalling & somewhat petty here on what is a self help site. Also when they include remarks like "she isn't very good looking anyway" it's obvious that some are motivated by jealousy

I am not jealous of her in the slightest, far from it. I don't like her and I don't think she's very good looking, which given that she is a model is a fair comment. I am also allowed my own opinion. I don't see that the mention of "a self help site" has any relevance.

Yes the woman has a wicked temper which she should learn to control, - yes she earns a lot of money & yes she is very privileged in many ways but that's no reason to denigrate her

Again, we are allowed our opinions. It would be a very boring place if we all agreed on everything.

Just because people earn large sums of money why does that mean that they shouldn't get peed of when the airline loses their bag, I would very much as did She & I don't earn very much money at all

She is in the public eye for a start so she should behave in a responsible manner. Would you be saying the same if it had been Wayne Roony behaving like this? I'm sure all the thousands of other people that now have lost luggage weren't very happy either, but as far as I'm aware none had to be arrested and forcibly removed from an aircraft because of their behaviour.

Also why is it assumed that there was nothing of great value in her baggage & why should it be the case that even if there was that just because she can afford to lose her property she shouldn’t get angry or upset?

Of course she is allowed to get upset as is anyone else that now has lost luggage.

Why just because some people are rich & famous should they be considered by some as having fewer rights than the rest us?

I think she should consider that she has no more rights than the rest of us. This is the point she seems to be missing too.

How do we know that she did commit assault? just because the Police say so?
No because she has done it before she’s an easy target for such claims & I for one would prefer to wait & hear the evidence from other bystanders before jumping to the conclusions that She’s done it again.

If you would prefer to wait to hear the evidence, why are you stressing the point that she has done nothing wrong.

[Sapphire]

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Ok here's my pennorth worth:

These 'celebs' or whatever you want to call them are in the public eye, and rightly or wrongly are role models for the impressionable youngsters. Therefore it should be their moral responsility to behave and act with decorum AT ALL TIMES, as should all of us.
Therefore I believe that anyone who behaves badly, or breaks the rules should be punished accordingly.
The trouble with our legal system is that their are too many people, 'celebs' included, who are committing offences and getting their back of their hand slapped instead of a real punishment.
Maybe another way of punishing the 'celebs' is to stop them being 'celebs' any more by removing their 'star' status, ie: Naomi no longer is employable as a Model and is therefore removed from the public eye and no longer is an icon for others to look up to.
Amy Winehouse therefore would be stopped earning a living as a singer and so on and so forth.
It would only have to happen to one or two before the whole lot of them started to realise what they are losing and start to behave themselves in a proper and decent manner, which befits the status that they gained by being talented or good looking whatever.

Bring back the birch and the death sentence I say.

Ok, go on slaughter me now, I am off to the dentist and getting my car MOT'd so I will be back later with the proper hump probably, ttfn.

[righty]

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I'm sorry bit I not going to argue the politics of envy other than to say yes I would expect Wayne Rooney to be treat the same

The posters comments about Rooney only serve to highlight the fact that some are reducing this site to the level of a sleazy tabloid by suggesting that because Campbell is a woman & a model is the only reason I'm taking her side.

Nonsense I would speak out for anyone, male or female, who found themselves in that situation, at least until I heard the facts. As I said before to attack her just because she is rich, a successful model or because you believe her guilty without hearing the evidence smacks of prejudice & or envy or both

I agree everyone is entitled to their opinion & I'm allowed to argue mine even if it doesn't fit in with what appears to be the mainstream here. I feel someone here needs to try & redress the negative comments

[Nattie]

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Righty, I would actually come in here and say that I thought the comment that she is ugly, whilst an opinion, has no bearing on the case(my first thought was--post your picture so we can compare beauty). Personally, her reputation within the media is such that we would not be talking about this if you or I had done the same. I think being famous is a horrendous thing to be. Having said this, I can remember a conversation I had many moons ago about the difference between rich and poor, to slightly go off at a tangent on this thread. The only difference was not money in itself but CHOICE, the choice to fly first class in this case and the choice to be able to defend the charge.

To add one last thing which is said a lot, I do not agree with a lot of what some posters have said, but I will fight for their right to say it.

[righty]

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I agree Nattie people have a right to express their opinions no matter how abhorrent they are to me - after all I'm not the judge or jury just a member of this site expressing mine which are that there has been a propensity over the years for the public (& not just here) to assume the worst of people just because they are either successful or famous or both - OR because they have gotten into trouble with the Police - the assumption is that because they have been arrested they must be guilty because they wouldn't have been arrested if they are innocent would they

Such a stance shows a remarkable degree of naivety amongst the general public when it's assumed that there is no smoke without fire when in fact it is quite often proven that arrested person is innocent - my view is lets see the evidence before making such rash comments which IMHO border on the libellous & could cause harm to this site

It's been stated that she courts the limelight so must expect to suffer the consequences - when the truth she doesn't actually court any such thing. She's a cat walk model who displays other peoples products & it is they who court the limelight in order to sell them

[Nattie]

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Righty, I didn't like the comment made about her looks but I do think you may think this forum is more important in the bigger picture than it is. This forum has less than 1000 posters and I am fairly sure Naomi will care less about what a bank charges forum says than what her employers think because they are the important. I did however look further around the internet for other threads on this topic with regards to people's views. The forum Digitalspy which is about TV and the like and has a huge user base has a thread on the topic
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...naomi+campbell

Here is a selection of comments:

"She's a nutter, I can't stand the woman and I don't think she's beautiful on either the inside or the outside

oh get this stupid ugly bint scrubbing toilets or throw away the key...enough already

I seriously think she is mentally unhinged"

Membership of that forum is as at 6am this morning 252,939.

There is no libellous comments on this thread for me, and I may have upset people with the fact that we are an emerging bank charges forum but membership of all bank charges forums excluding MSE is about 250,000, so it would be shocking if we had any impact on her modelling career.

People do have nasty views but if they are libellous then you know that you need to use the report button on the thread regardlesss of who they are or what position they have on this forum and it will be flagged in team for a view.

[Amy]

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Righty, I would actually come in here and say that I thought the comment that she is ugly, whilst an opinion, has no bearing on the case(my first thought was--post your picture so we can compare beauty).

I did not say she was ugly and it wouldn't matter if I posted up my picture or not because beauty is in the eye of the beholder - which is the whole point.

[Nattie]

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my apologies to amy but I made the implication from the comment. It did come across as a bitchy comment. BUT the whole point is that we are not a big player in the charges game as yet, and we will have no impact on her reputation UNLESS the CEO of any of her sponsors are regular readers or viewers of the forum.

[Guest]

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...the assumption is that because they have been arrested they must be guilty because they wouldn't have been arrested if they are innocent would they

Such a stance shows a remarkable degree of naivety amongst the general public when it's assumed that there is no smoke without fire when in fact it is quite often proven that arrested person is innocent - my view is lets see the evidence before making such rash comments which IMHO border on the libellous & could cause harm to this site

It's been stated that she courts the limelight so must expect to suffer the consequences - when the truth she doesn't actually court any such thing. She's a cat walk model who displays other peoples products & it is they who court the limelight in order to sell them

Campbell has been accused of and arrested for physically and verbally abusing several of her employees and associates. Documented accusations against Campbell include the following:

• In 2000, she pleaded guilty in a Toronto court to a 1998 assault on Georgina Galanis, her then assistant; Campbell had assaulted Galanis with a telephone in a hotel room and threatened to throw her out of a moving car. Under an agreement with the prosecution her record was cleared in exchange for her expressing remorse; Campbell also paid Galanis an undisclosed sum and agreed to attend anger management classes.
• In March 2005, Campbell allegedly slapped assistant Amanda Brack and beat her around the head with a BlackBerry personal organiser. Campbell's spokesman Rob Shuter denied the incident ever took place. In July 2006, Brack began legal proceedings against Campbell, claiming Campbell abused her verbally and physically on three continents. Brack accused Campbell of assault, battery, and infliction of emotional distress in incidents that started a month after she began working for her in February 2005. Campbell countersued for an unknown amount.
• Italian actress Yvonne Sciò has claimed Campbell left her "covered in blood" after an altercation at a Rome hotel. Sciò claimed: "She punched me in the face. She was like Mike Tyson."
• On March 30, 2006 in New York City, Campbell was arrested for allegedly assaulting her housekeeper with a jewel-encrusted mobile phone, resulting in a bloody head that required several stitches. She was charged with second degree assault, a felony that carries a minimum sentence of one year and a maximum of seven years in prison.
• On September 28, 2006, Campbell did not attend a required court appearance in New York City, and the judge ruled that he would order her arrest if she failed to turn up in court the following week, on charges of a second-degree assault on her housekeeper, and could be jailed for up to seven years if convicted.
• On October 25, 2006, Campbell was arrested in London on suspicion of assault; she was released on police bail.
• On November 14, 2006, another former Campbell housekeeper, Gaby Gibson, began a new court case against Campbell seeking unspecified damages, and accused her ex-employer of being a "violent super-bigot".
• On November 15, 2006, Campbell appeared in criminal court in New York City regarding her March 2006 assault charges. Her defence lawyer and the prosecutor told the judge that they were "still in the process of working out a possible" plea deal in the case.
• The Boston-based law firm Sullivan & Worcester, which had assigned a top litigator to defend Campbell throughout her many escapades, severed their relationship with Campbell in 2006.
• On January 16, 2007, Campbell pleaded guilty to a charge of reckless assault against her maid Ana Scolavino. She was sentenced to five days community service and ordered to attend two days of an anger management course. In addition, she was ordered to pay medical bills of $363 (£185) to Scolavino who required four stitches after the incident. According to a report on CNN, Campbell blames "her temper on lingering resentment toward her father for abandoning her as a child". On March 19, 2007, Campbell began mopping floors at New York's Sanitation Department for her service.
• On August 20, 2007, New York Supreme Court Judge Michael Stallman issued a decision and order denying Campbell's legal attempt to exclude Gaby Gibson's references from her history of well-publicised, allegedly "chronic abusive and repeatedly violent conduct toward her employees." Judge Stallman reasoned that "if proven, the reports of Campbell's conduct" might result in proving that it was so "wanton or outrageous" to justify the punitive damages sought by Campbell's ex-housekeeper.

Sure, there's no smoke without fire and it would be naive to assume that she was guilty.

[enaid]

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[Amethyst]

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hmmmmmmm I have to say that a few of the complaints against her, even though they may have happened, may not have gone to the police and compensation lawyers if Ms Campbell wasn't quite so wealthy.

[theGobbyOne]

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Yes she should...................she is an arrogant b!tch and thinks she is more important than us commoners.............What makes her bleeding think her luggage was anymore important than other travellers ffs...............ggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr r peeps like her make my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[theGobbyOne]

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And what planet are some people on who use this site ffs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tinysmile_twink_t2:

There is a full on b!tch fest going on about this ugly overpaid up her own arse woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Guest]

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hmmmmmmm I have to say that a few of the complaints against her, even though they may have happened, may not have gone to the police and compensation lawyers if Ms Campbell wasn't quite so wealthy.

She needs to learn to control her temper - one day she will hit somebody who hits back. No amount of money is going to help her then.