Has the rot set in

[nemesis45]

The news today that 3 judges of various levels have been removed and a Recorder has resigned after pornography was found on
" work" computers can do nothing but undermine the public confidence in the judiciary.
Is this the tip of another iceberg of corruption in public life.


nem

[enaid]

Re: Has the rot set in

Well imho apart from being the 'tip of the iceberg' I think it is the beginning of the end for secrecy, back handers, threats and cover ups for the police, mps, bankers etc who we have to trust on a daily basis.
We are all entitled to a 'private life', I am no prude and each to their own as long as they stay within the law.
Jimmy Saville, Hillsborough, Rochdale child sex exploitation ( no one to be charged) the many corrupt actions of the banks, energy company rip offs these are the tip of the icebergs that we have had to grin and bare and have had to pay to put right truth be known.
Makes me sick that all this is brought on by sheer greed and lust, something that the powers that be think they have a full blown right to just because.

[Crazy council]

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the public service design there own regulatory systems with rules that they make up. From personal terrible and hard fought experience, All them above you mention [MENTION=141]enaid[/MENTION] , if were to look at how the internal legal officers have acted, you clearly get to see how things get covered up . Then, when you get legal and managerial roles in the same office or person, specifically in local public services, you see how things get covered up on a regular basis.

At least the legal service regulation, outside councils ( judges and solisitors ) is fair and reasonable in how they deal with issuse and complaints, albeit difficult to navigate at times.

[jon1965]

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Oh for crying out loud, the world has gone mad. Was the porn legal? If so what have they done wrong.

[nemesis45]

Re: Has the rot set in

Inappropriate use of " work " computers, conduct unbecoming their status as judges.
nem

[Amethyst]

Re: Has the rot set in

It is simply that they were viewing general porn during work hours on work IT equipment, which would be the same in any job with rules against such activities.

The statement reads

Judge's x,x and x have been..... ''removed from judicial office following an investigation into an allegation that
they viewed pornographic material on judicial IT equipment in their offices.
The Lord Chancellor and the Lord Chief Justice were satisfied that the
material did not include images of children or any other illegal content, but
concluded that this was an inexcusable misuse of their judicial IT accounts
and wholly unacceptable conduct for a judicial office holder.''

[jon1965]

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Naturally I do not condone abuse of any kind but sometimes I feel for people investigated on historic charges. If what they did was not illegal at the time should they be prosecuted?
if so the whole nation should be in the dock for slavery.

[Amethyst]

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It wasn't historic, it was recent, and neither was it illegal, it was an employment matter.

[enaid]

Re: Has the rot set in

Oh for crying out loud, the world has gone mad. Was the porn legal? If so what have they done wrong.

Don't think anyone is saying the porn was the wrongdoing, just that we the tax payer was paying for their entertainment which inmo is very wrong.

Three judges have been sacked for viewing pornographic material via their official IT accounts,

[mystery1]

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I always assume a Judge is a w@&^%$ anyway. #confirmed.

M1

[jon1965]

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While I take the point about using work IT equipment this opens up a whole new question. If the court service provides Internet access to their home should they then have a separate isp for personal use?
viewing porn is not illegal and I do not think it makes anyone unfit to hold a job down.
If they were being hypocritical such as John major talking about family values while doing edwina that is different

[Amethyst]

Re: Has the rot set in

For reference on misconduct by Judge's

Source: The Lawyer June 2012

''An employment judge has become the first to be publicly censured under new rules that will see all judges and magistrates who are disciplined for misconduct have their cases publicised by the Office for Judicial Complaints (OJC).

Previously only high-profile cases of serious offences have prompted the OJC to make a statement, but after an internal review the Lord Chancellor Ken Clarke and Lord Chief Justice Lord Judge have updated the publication policy in relation to judicial conduct matters to include more minor reprimands.

The new rules came into force on 1 June and last week (8 June) employment judge Neeta Amin became the first to have her formal warning publicised following a delayed judgment, failure to meet her minimum sitting requirements in 2009 and failure to respond to correspondence from the Employment Tribunal.

An OJC spokesman said: “The Lord Chancellor and Lord Chief Justice found Judge Amin’s conduct to be below the standard of service expected of a judicial office holder in this respect and have issued Judge Amin with a formal warning.”

The move is designed to improve the openness and transparency of the complaints system.

A statement will normally be placed on the OJC website following a disciplinary sanction following a finding of misconduct.

It used to be made public only when a judge was suspended, removed - as in the case of wife-beating Judge James Allen QC (2 November 2011) - or if the case attracted significant media attention, such as Lord Justice Thorpe’s cow-feeding driving ban defence (13 January 2012).

Those relating to less serious punishments will be removed after five years, but Judge LCJ and Clarke can review publication based on the merits of the case.

The majority of disciplinary action taken by the OCJ is against magistrates who have not met the minimum number of sittings.''

[jon1965]

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Was it a cost to the taxpayer? Unless it was pay as you pull then no it wasnt

[Amethyst]

Re: Has the rot set in

http://judicialconduct.judiciary.gov.uk/816.htm

[Amethyst]

Re: Has the rot set in

Was it a cost to the taxpayer? Unless it was pay as you pull then no it wasnt

As far as I'm aware they were using IT equipment at work (ie in their offices) during work time.

''An immigration judge in London currently earns an annual salary of £121,450 and a district judge commands £115,489. ''