Parking discussion closed

Ever thought about accepting that the selfish driver is at fault?

[des8]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Ever thought about accepting that the selfish driver is at fault?

That's an odd comment...................... you don't happen to work for ParkingEye, do you?

[RICKY PRIOR(HELPLESSLIAR)]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Far from it. I own a business and have many clients who have had land damaged by selfish drivers, who when being caught (rather than making a mistake) squirm and lie to get out of paying for causing someone else a problem.

[des8]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Now if damage has been caused there is a case for damages following trespass.
PE and their like do not operate on that basis
Now leave so that others can help those being mugged by parking companies

[RICKY PRIOR(HELPLESSLIAR)]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

What about distress to others? What about my land? What about the amount of taxpayers money wasted on people who cannot accept responsibility because they have been caught? Clearly you are not a landowner or a high contributor to tax in the UK. Ever thought that people like me don't want certain people on their land but have no choice to engage a parking company?

[bluebottle]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

What about distress to others? What about my land? What about the amount of taxpayers money wasted on people who cannot accept responsibility because they have been caught? Clearly you are not a landowner or a high contributor to tax in the UK. Ever thought that people like me don't want certain people on their land but have no choice to engage a parking company?

I would respectfully suggest you get a reality check. Using a PPC does not absolve you of any responsibility for their actions whilst they are acting on your behalf. You are 100% vicariously-liable. If they behave in a criminal manner, you will be held responsible as well as the PPC. If you don't want people parking on your land, you need to put physical barriers in place to prevent it. Putting up notices and cameras is not enough.

If you do nothing, you are deemed to be -

a. inviting people to encroach; and
b. accepting the risk of damage to your land.

Being a landowner or high contributor to tax does not confer any special exemptions from compliance with the law or any special privileges. You are subject to the same laws as everyone else and, as such, are required to obey those laws.

[RICKY PRIOR(HELPLESSLIAR)]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Oh I understand the law. I am also aware I am entitled to pay for a service where my staff and guest can park their cars safely on my land. Not sure why you presume all operatives are of the criminal ilk. I want a healthy deterrent to keep unwelcome individuals of my land. I don't expect special treatment because I pay more tax than you earn, but you clearly are taking about a subject you know nothing about.......a gamble would be a civil servant.

[bluebottle]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Oh I understand the law. I am also aware I am entitled to pay for a service where my staff and guest can park their cars safely on my land. Not sure why you presume all operatives are of the criminal ilk. I want a healthy deterrent to keep unwelcome individuals of my land. I don't expect special treatment because I pay more tax than you earn, but you clearly are taking about a subject you know nothing about.......a gamble would be a civil servant.

Good thing you didn't gamble any money because you would have lost. I'm not a civil servant. I'm a retired policeman who has studied law since retiring. As well as advising people on this site, I also undertake Lay Advocacy with Fraudulent Property Repossession, Illegal/Unlawful Eviction, Fraudulent Bankruptcy and Public Administration Misconduct/Malfeasance/Misfeasance being the areas I tend to deal with mostly.

If you want a practical deterrent to stopping people encroaching onto your land with their vehicles, erect a physical barrier to stop them.

Believe me, a lot of these PPCs seem plausible and respectable. Do not be fooled by membership of the British Parking Association. It is not a guarantee the PPC is reputable or doesn't bend or break the law. As previously stated, if you hire a PPC you accept full legal responsibility for their actions.

[RICKY PRIOR(HELPLESSLIAR)]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Christ. Ex police, paid and pensioneded by the public purse.....I'd call that a civil servant, wouldn't you? You seem to be breathtaking presumptuous of my knowledge and understanding. What qualifies you to advice people?
You haven't a clue about my land, with council restrictions, drivers incapable of reading a sign and blatant liars to boot. Then the liberal minded, civil servants like yourself and others presume you can criticize and question those that provide the pension you enjoy, by making it easy for offenders to sneakily get out of parking fees. Maybe, just maybe most of the individuals should try and behave more admirably towards those that provide the most.

[bluebottle]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Christ. Ex police, paid and pensioneded by the public purse.....I'd call that a civil servant, wouldn't you? You seem to be breathtaking presumptuous of my knowledge and understanding. What qualifies you to advice people?
You haven't a clue about my land, with council restrictions, drivers incapable of reading a sign and blatant liars to boot. Then the liberal minded, civil servants like yourself and others presume you can criticize and question those that provide the pension you enjoy, by making it easy for offenders to sneakily get out of parking fees. Maybe, just maybe most of the individuals should try and behave more admirably towards those that provide the most.

Police officers, regardless of rank, hold the office of Constable. Civil servants do not. What qualifies me to advise people? Law exams to degree level, experience and knowledge of how the legal system works and experience of dealing with those who think the law doesn't apply to them.

As for the remark you make in the final sentence of your post, I dealt with individuals with that sort of view when a CID officer and helped send two to prison after they defrauded the taxpayer out of £970,000. I'm afraid the vast majority of people from all walks of life have had enough of the attitude you demonstrate. Either peacefully co-exist and get on with the rest of mankind or you might find people may not be so willing to help you.

[bizzybob]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Far from it. I own a business and have many clients who have had land damaged by selfish drivers, who when being caught (rather than making a mistake) squirm and lie to get out of paying for causing someone else a problem.

Do you own a bridge and live under it, and charge a fee for passage? A Troll Bridge perhaps.

Many of these cases are down to genuine mistake and what damage do I do If I deliver parcels all day to the shops, and get an invoice for overstaying when I have never actually parkes, same if I was a Taxidriver, dropping off and picking up all day but get invoiced by Parking Eye who only log me in and out with their ANPR at the start and end of the day and unfairly invoice me?

As to your other ramblings I concur with Bluebottle, fence barriers, and of course if you were in USA or especially South Africa, you could electrify the fence and put flamethrowers inwith proximity sensors as a deterrent to toast anyone climbing over the fence. And before you reply, I am an obnoxious git so there.

[RICKY PRIOR(HELPLESSLIAR)]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

I gather you are an obnoxious git. You have just (and others on this site) my point. Because YOU need to deliver your little parcels and overstay your welcome, you don't feel it is fair to be invoiced. So parking companies should make an exception for you, and all the taxi drivers, and parents dropping kids off, and those desperate for the toilet, the disabled, mothers and toddlers,those without permits on people like my land........Me thinks your wonderful vocation in life will have a very small lifespan. I am gambling if I set a business up like yours and parked my vehicle in your way daily,preventing you delivering your little parcels, your attitude would change very quickly...........
My commercial land is for my staff and those invited on there. My private land is patrolled by dogs. Why should I inconvenience myself and spend more money, preventing drivers who are not capable of reading a simple sign.

Do you own a bridge and live under it, and charge a fee for passage? A Troll Bridge perhaps.

Many of these cases are down to genuine mistake and what damage do I do If I deliver parcels all day to the shops, and get an invoice for overstaying when I have never actually parkes, same if I was a Taxidriver, dropping off and picking up all day but get invoiced by Parking Eye who only log me in and out with their ANPR at the start and end of the day and unfairly invoice me?

As to your other ramblings I concur with Bluebottle, fence barriers, and of course if you were in USA or especially South Africa, you could electrify the fence and put flamethrowers inwith proximity sensors as a deterrent to toast anyone climbing over the fence. And before you reply, I am an obnoxious git so there.

[Wombats]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

I gather you are an obnoxious git. You have just (and others on this site) my point. Because YOU need to deliver your little parcels and overstay your welcome, you don't feel it is fair to be invoiced. So parking companies should make an exception for you, and all the taxi drivers, and parents dropping kids off, and those desperate for the toilet, the disabled, mothers and toddlers,those without permits on people like my land........Me thinks your wonderful vocation in life will have a very small lifespan. I am gambling if I set a business up like yours and parked my vehicle in your way daily,preventing you delivering your little parcels, your attitude would change very quickly...........
My commercial land is for my staff and those invited on there. My private land is patrolled by dogs. Why should I inconvenience myself and spend more money, preventing drivers who are not capable of reading a simple sign.

Ricky, whatever you think of others, this is not a forum on which to be wholly offensive and ill mannered. However, you have your opportunity to have a say on this thread:

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...and-discussion

If you are able to keep remarks civil, perhaps people will take whatever point(s) you have to make a little more seriously and they can be discussed in the way most rational human beings converse.

Little point saying anything else to be honest, as you'll either seize the opportunity to have your voice, or you'll carry on in this manner and end up banned. I say that quite confidently even though I am only a normal poster. You would be wise to take heed my friend.

[Johnboy007]

Re: Parking Eye - County Court Claim, Any help greatly appreciated

Far from it. I own a business and have many clients who have had land damaged by selfish drivers, who when being caught (rather than making a mistake) squirm and lie to get out of paying for causing someone else a problem.

Don't tar all drivers who park on private land with the same brush mate.

[Amethyst]

Re: Parking discussion closed

Mr Prior has left the building.