Ding Dong the Witch is Dead

[gravytrain]

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Thatcher is absolutely hated - yet the establishment remains determined to go ahead with a vastly expensive funeral.

Nothing could better illustrate the gulf that now exists between the the state and the people.

Not universally it seems

[enquirer]

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Not universally it seems

Thus demonstrating that you can indeed fool some of the people all of the time.

[CleverClogs]

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Those who would eulogise that ghastly creature probably have no knowledge of the harm she did, or are rather worse themselves.

[gravytrain]

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Thus demonstrating that you can indeed fool some of the people all of the time.

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Three consecutive terms worth and eleven years apparently

[leclerc]

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Three consecutive terms worth and eleven years apparently

Taught the Argentinians a lesson in war(not sure I should say that), only female Prime Minister, longest serving Prime Minister of the 20th Century, etc, etc,. the very fact that we have the debate suggests she was important in the life of most of us able or who were alive to know the pain and misery and the changes that she made.

As a compete aside, the single "Ding Dong the witch is dead" is apparently sitting at number 10. If it's gets to number one then that is something she may have achieved posthumously

[gravytrain]

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Taught the Argentinians a lesson in war(not sure I should say that), only female Prime Minister, longest serving Prime Minister of the 20th Century, etc, etc,. the very fact that we have the debate suggests she was important in the life of most of us able or who were alive to know the pain and misery and the changes that she made.

As a compete aside, the single "Ding Dong the witch is dead" is apparently sitting at number 10. If it's gets to number one then that is something she may have achieved posthumously

Some are old enough to remember the situation before she came into power and appreciate the changes she made.

And yes the song is a posthumous achievement she safeguarded free speech even for those who IMO don;t deserve it.

[CleverClogs]

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As a compete aside, the single "Ding Dong the witch is dead" is apparently sitting at number 10. If it's gets to number one then that is something she may have achieved posthumously

What do you mean by "if"?

Please see the attached file. :rofl:

[EXC]

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It does not celebrate anything of the sort.

It is, however, a valid news story and, whether you like it or not, it is a matter of public interest.

Why do you believe in censorship?

The song is being bought and played for no other reason than to celebrate the death. It has nothing to do with censorship (or free speech) and everything to do with the rational of a civilised nation's public broadcasting service invading the grief of fellow nationals in the name of entertainment.

[gravytrain]

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The song is being bought and played for no other reason than to celebrate the death. It has nothing to do with censorship (or free speech) and everything to do with the rational of a civilised nation's public broadcasting service invading the grief of fellow nationals in the name of entertainment.

I have a great deal of sympathy with this view. It is certainly in very poor taste. However I cannot condone the banning of things simply because they are in poor taste. Naively perhaps I would hope that people were adult enough not to entertain the nonsense.

There was a similar problem with the sex pistols and their song " God save the Queen" in the Silver Jubilee I seem to remember, I think the song was banned on that occasion however.

[enaid]

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I do believe a big chunk of the 10mil is for policing and security, why oh why that is needed at a funeral no matter who it is I don't know. Oh yes I do come to think of it, there will be people wanting to demonstrate and cause trouble, well fact is she wont hear you or give a **** will she so why bother.
That way we could save a lot of the money some are complaining about spending on her send off, if you couldn't stand her then stay away clean yer windows, have a jar or bloody stay in bed ffs.

[EXC]

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However I cannot condone the banning of things simply because they are in poor taste.

Even the Press Complaints Commission who oversee our famously free press (and who the papers themselves agree is not tough enough) has a clause in its code that prohibits intrusion into grief.

[EXC]

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I do believe a big chunk of the 10mil is for policing and security, why oh why that is needed at a funeral no matter who it is I don't know.

That's the irony. It is those that will be planning on causing trouble who will be complaining of the policing costs.

[leclerc]

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Even the Press Complaints Commission who oversee our famously free press (and who the papers themselves agree is not tough enough) has a clause in it's code that prohibits intrusion into grief.

Are we talking about the song "ding dong the witch is dead"?
If we are then we disagree on the issue. Yes, people may be buying it on the basis that Mrs Thatcher is dead but ultimately, the song dates back to the film "The Wizard of Oz".
Unfortunately, the BBC does not compile the charts but if the buying public pays for the single then failing to play the song at number 1 is ridiculous. If the family believe the song is about Maggie Thatcher then they need to really get a life. Had it been a rehash and stated "Ding Dong that bitch is dead" then that might be different.

As an aside, if they did refuse to play then then why on earth did they play "let's get ready to rumble" by Ant and Dec, a song that had never reached number 1 on its release date

[Angry Cat]

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Frankly, I am totally dismayed/disgusted by some of the comments being made on here...!

[CleverClogs]

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The song is being bought and played for no other reason than to celebrate the death.

No, it isn't.

Some may have bought or played that song merely to celebrate the eventual demise of an arrogant and obstinate politician who presided over the destruction of much of British manufacturing industry and of the communities they supported.

Others may have bought or played that song for quite other reasons, such as a feeling of a different Zeitgeist in modern Britain, where the anti-homosexual prejudice embodied in Section 28 (link, in case you'd forgotten) must never again made law and where Parliament should never again be allowed to pander to prejudice.

Yet others may have bought or played that song simply because it is a catchy tune.

It has nothing to do with censorship (or free speech) and everything to do with the rational of a civilised nation's public broadcasting service invading the grief of fellow nationals in the name of entertainment.

Utter nonsense.

Suppression of news that some might not like is censorship - indeed, it is almost a textbook definition of censorship.