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  • perverting the course of justice

    I have looked online and legislation.gov and can not find an actual act for this! (something like a missprovision act)

    Wikipida tells me its common law. Again an internet search tells me nothing from magna carta

    It seams to be a serius crime out there on the internet, so there must be more to it then just hear say. Any indications please?
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  • #2
    Common law is not "just hearsay".

    Here is the CPS guidance for prosecutors: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidanc...e%20are%20done.
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    • #3
      It is a common law offence. There is not statute (including Magna Carta) making provision. The maximum sentence for perverting the course of justice can be life imprisonment.
      You contrast it with hear say. Hear say is (was) a rule of evidence and has no connection.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by atticus View Post
        Common law is not "just hearsay".
        .
        So what is it?


        Originally posted by atticus View Post

        Here is the CPS guidance for prosecutors: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidanc...e%20are%20done.
        Interesting link! though it dose say Perverting the Course of Justice

        The offence of Perverting the Course of Justice is committed when an accused:

        So what is the offence where is it in the law books may I ask?


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        • #5
          Originally posted by dslippy View Post
          It is a common law offence. There is not statute (including Magna Carta) making provision.
          so what is common law?



          Originally posted by dslippy View Post
          The maximum sentence for perverting the course of justice can be life imprisonment.
          where do you get this from though


          Originally posted by dslippy View Post
          You contrast it with hear say. Hear say is (was) a rule of evidence and has no connection.
          I though hear say was a presumption and nothing more

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          • #6
            Common Law is part of the law of England and Wales.

            Read what the CPS guidance for prosecutors says. You won't get a clearer explanation. If you want a book, go to a law library and ask for Archbold.

            And what you though[t] is wrong.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by atticus View Post
              Common Law is part of the law of England and Wales.

              Read what the CPS guidance for prosecutors says. You won't get a clearer explanation. If you want a book, go to a law library and ask for Archbold.

              And what you though[t] is wrong.
              But to bough those points. C.L. and P.T.C.O.J. There must be something in writing for bough to make it more then just hear say of a presumption

              When a police officer arrests someone or when a court convicts someone they read out the offence of a statute. I understand that common law has no statues as it was in place prior to parliment. But what about PTCOJ, how can one be charged for this?

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              • #8
                Read the CPS document!
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                Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by atticus View Post
                  Read the CPS document!
                  I have had another look at your link and for what as far as I can see in the term "offences are concerned". The best I could see from the list is "General Charging Practice

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                  • #10
                    It has been clealy set out for you. Common law exists independently of statute law, and the few offences left at common law are punishable as said.

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                    • #11
                      No it has not been set out in writing; infact bough of them!

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                      • #12
                        Sorry, but you can stamp your feet, but common law is that section of historic law which existed outside and independent of statute law.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dslippy View Post
                          Sorry, but you can stamp your feet, but common law is that section of historic law which existed outside and independent of statute law.
                          Would you like to provide something in writing to prove this?

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                          • #14
                            To help you, I have used my search engine. It has come up with numerous things to read, including this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law

                            What are you trying to achieve with this thread?
                            Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

                            Litigants in Person should download and read the Judiciary's handbook for litigants in person: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/..._in_Person.pdf

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by atticus View Post
                              To help you, I have used my search engine. It has come up with numerous things to read, including this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law

                              What are you trying to achieve with this thread?
                              Hah!
                              I read from the link about "Common law courts" This is talked about a lot by the freeman of the land/ take our freedoms back/ anti vaz groups

                              But the link dose say "The term "common law", referring to the body of law made by the judiciary,"
                              So the law is set by a common law court and not an act of parliment or magna carta singed of by the King. Is this right?

                              The reason I started this thread because I was given a primarlary hearing in the magistrates court for an appeal against a goverment body. The primarlary hearing was to decide when I would get my hear which was decided by them to be 6 months time!

                              It is with complete prejudice that if someone is arrested for a Mr Meaner by Bent Copper and unlawfully inprisoned overnight and brough to court the following morning to stand justice that my justice is delayed

                              It is more then prejudice by delaying my justice, infact magna carta clause 40 states "We will not sell, or deny, or delay right or justice to anyone". delay the right of justice to anyone. So that is what they have done? Can I hold the judge accountable for this?

                              And finally it is more then delaying justice, I make the presumption that it is common ground to assume that delaying justice is perverting the course of justice. Infact I read somewhere in that link you provided, somewhere that it is and dose state that delaying justice is a form of perverting the course of justice. Can I get them on this one two?

                              Or are you going to tell me now after that not to bother because they are allways right and I am allways wrong, argument/ debate delieted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvxt1svxso


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