FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

[EXC]

Re: FSA proposals on definition of Hardship rejected by Banks

Here you go




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Dear Mr Spooner

Freedom of Information: Right to know request

Thank you for your email of 15 May 2008.

The definition for ‘financial difficulty’ is actually outlined in paragraph 14 of The Banking Code – Guidance for Subscribers and not The Banking Code as advised.

For your convenience I have attached link to the Code below.

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[skintkim]

Re: FSA proposals on definition of Hardship rejected by Banks

sorry computer will not allow me to get that but thanks anyway. Do you think I stand a chance?

[EXC]

Re: FSA proposals on definition of Hardship rejected by Banks

To answer your question. it's a bit of a long shot but you have nothing to loose. PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send it on.

[Amethyst]

Re: FSA proposals on definition of Hardship rejected by Banks

Further to this the Banks were due to meet with the FSA today (2nd July) to discuss the Hardship conditions.

The FSA in concerned about the length of time the test case is taking and is putting pressure on the banks to resolve the issue faster.

[skintkim]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

And do we know what happened??????

[Amethyst]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

nope not a whisper... YET

[grimbell]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

I have a claim against A&L with the FOS. It is partly due to them closing the account without notice and partly charges. I claimed hardship done the I&E forms but the FOS say that because A&L refunded some charges last July that they have complied with the banking code already and therefore should not refund the rest (£1500)!

I am still trying to get them to look again. So it seems that the FOS do not know how to act on harship cases.

[Amethyst]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

To be fair to FOS the FSA guidance has been pretty dire. Hopefully that is all changing now - I believe there should be some news regarding this on Monday.

[scoobydoo]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

I have a claim against A&L with the FOS. It is partly due to them closing the account without notice and partly charges. I claimed hardship done the I&E forms but the FOS say that because A&L refunded some charges last July that they have complied with the banking code already and therefore should not refund the rest (£1500)!

I am still trying to get them to look again. So it seems that the FOS do not know how to act on harship cases.

On another case on here the FOS will not consider refunding charges on the case as the bank have acted within the banking code by not chasing for the debt ( caused by charges) and not adding further interest charges. So in other words they are still waiting for guidance from the courts on the actuial charges - but the banks should give the hardship cases some help with not falling into further debt as a result of the case taking so long.

I will post the letter up ASAP

[shooter]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

can't wait to hear what they have to say as LLoyds now owe me just over £5000 with interest added since I put my claim into the court

If they say that hardship IS anyone with charges of over £500 per annum what will happen?

Will the banks have to payout?

will the courts have to hear cases?

[Amethyst]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

They will have to investiate your complaint fully as they did before the waiver was introduced yes.

I don't think it will make a lot of difference to court cases, but having some firm guidance as to what constitutes hardship, combined with what Justice Smith says on Monday, should start things moving for those people in most need.

[Tempty]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

wow can only mean good news for my case then .... considering they took £714 in one month!!! never mind the blummin year lol

I'm still not gonna allow myself to get too excited though (will wait till i finally get the money in my hand before i break out the bubbly )

[skintkim]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

any news yet?

[Amethyst]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

:kiss:

nothing yet....I'll have a scout about today see if I can find anything out.

Other wise Monday is likely to be the 'news' day......the next bit of the test case is on then. We have a couple peeps attending so should get news back quite quickly.

The PCA report is meant to be in tomorrow too. Banks are still blaming the OFT for the hold up, and vice versa.

[Amethyst]

Re: FSA meets with Banks to discuss Hardship conditions - 2nd July

Update 4th July

Discussions with the OFT continue over conditions for the renewal of the waiver which now include a rubuttable preumption that £500 of charges per year qualities as hardship and a pre-approval for terms and conditions changes.

The FSA is concerned about the length of time the test case is taking and is putting pressure on the banks to resolve the issue faster.