General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

[Nibbler]

http://www.harrisons.uk.com/news/gen...administration

By way of background there are approximately 1300 historic and existing clients that have been or are still currently subject to Debt Management Plans (DMPs) or Debt Reduction Plans (DRPs) with the Company. (It should be noted however that some of those clients will have originally been clients of Marketing and Lead Generation Limited that traded under the style One Debt Solutions, prior to the transfer of that business to the Company in August 2013).

If you are a client of the Company and it was holding money on your behalf in respect of an ongoing Debt Management Plan and/or Debt Reduction Plan you should send details of your name, address, e-mail and telephone number and the sum concerned to the following e-mail address and read the frequently asked questions (‘FAQ’) below: -

Seems to have been mainly a CMC, but had obviously some historic DMP/DRP clients as well.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2145776

Appointment of Administrators

In the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division)
Leeds District Registry No 638 of 2014

GENERAL RECOVERIES LIMITED

(Company Number 06734438 ) Registered office: 102 Sunlight House, Quay Street, Manchester, M3 3JZ
Principal trading address: Pioneer House, Birmingham Street, Halesowen, B63 3HN
Nature of Business: Debt Management Plans

Date of Appointment: 10 June 2014
Paul Boyle (IP Number 008897 ) and David Clements (IP Number 008765 ), Joint Administrators, 102 Sunlight House, Quay Street, Manchester, M3 3JZ . Telephone number 0161 876 4567

Alternative contact name and telephone number: Tom Bowes Tel: 0161 876 4567

And web archive of the previous company websites.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130909.../services.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20140516...olution.co.uk/

[Hubbabubla]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

I am one of those DMP clients! Not sure what's going to happen next but I know I won't get any of my money back, I've paid over £3000 to them over the past 3 years and only a small amount (if anything) was paid to my creditors. They were very good a lying, passing the buck, not returning calls and giving mis-leading information about "unenforceable" debts. I, along with the other 1299 clients have been conned and I'm so angry with myself for letting it happen.
I have received some correspondence from Harrison's but it looks like it's going to be a lengthy process, can anyone out there advise me as to what I do next? Do I sit tight and wait for the threatening letters and phone calls to start from those creditors or do I contact them myself. Advice and support most welcome.....

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

I am one of those DMP clients! Not sure what's going to happen next but I know I won't get any of my money back, I've paid over £3000 to them over the past 3 years and only a small amount (if anything) was paid to my creditors. They were very good a lying, passing the buck, not returning calls and giving mis-leading information about "unenforceable" debts. I, along with the other 1299 clients have been conned and I'm so angry with myself for letting it happen.
I have received some correspondence from Harrison's but it looks like it's going to be a lengthy process, can anyone out there advise me as to what I do next? Do I sit tight and wait for the threatening letters and phone calls to start from those creditors or do I contact them myself. Advice and support most welcome.....

As a first step I would contact someone like Stepchange, they have experience of these companies going under and you can set up your dmp with them, they may contact creditors too, if not its best to be proactive and make contact than wait for dca's to start hassling you.

Once you have done that it might be worth sending your own requests for statements of accounts and cca's ... have you got a list of all your creditors that you had with this firm?

[Hubbabubla]

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Thanks for the reply. I've spoken today to the company that have bought the client book from the Administrators (or however it works). They have told me that I have two creditors ( I thought I had four) but couldn't tell me how much the balances are unless I complete an authority to act form. I'm reluctant to do this as you can imagine its a case of "once bitten....etc" but I'm worrying now that some of the debts have been sold on without my knowledge and I'll be getting letters and calls from random companies demanding money. surely if it's information about me I should be able to request it without signing up to anything (they want £35 pm to help me sort this out)
GR Had informed me that my biggest debt of £8k was "unenforceable" this related to a HSBC loan dating back 10 years ago. I know that this means absolutely nothing and that it's still hanging about somewhere waiting to pounce!. I've also sign up to Experian to see if that's could shed any light on my current situation, that left me more perplexed as my score is excellent and is only showing one creditor that I've ever defaulted on.....????? The rest of the info on there is current stuff like my mortgage and current bank account and next directory etc. I'll give Stepchange a call to see if the can help.:tinysmile_cry_t:

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

If you only have a couple of creditors you may well be best off dealing with this yourself, with help here

Experian is a good idea, though look up Noddle as that's free and updates monthly.

Definately send a CCA request to HSBC (or the creditor if you know who it is currently with)
How long ago did you sign up with GR ? and how did they come to the conclusion the debt was unenforceable? They'd have had to write to HSBC under the consumer credit act asking for a copy of your agreement....presumably they actually did that.
Also how much have you been paying them each month, and where has that money been going?
One company just going under was collecting the monies in and saving it up for people to make full and final settlements, charging 17.5% of the settlement if they got one, but really just skanking the money to their own pockets. Not saying that's what has happened here.

Do you know what company has bought the client book? (£35 a month sounds familiar)

Do you know what the other debt is?

If not, you can send a subject access request to the company to get your information, there's no need to sign a form of authority or have them act for you, that £35 a month could be going to pay the debts, or even better staying in your pocket. You might even just be able to tell this new lot to close your file and send you all your documentation.

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

Also, tmw we should probably make a new thread separate from this general announcement thread.

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

The director of General Recoveries has been quite busy...

DEBT ADVICE NETWORK (WALES) LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	06/06/2011	-	09/2013	BUY NOW
SUSTAINABILITY (UK) LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	21/07/2011	-	03/2013	BUY NOW
FINANCIAL CLAIMS AND RECOVERIES LIMITED	Active - Newly Incorporated	Director	05/06/2013	-	-	BUY NOW
TRAVELTRUTH LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	30/06/2000	-	05/2007	BUY NOW
MANAGEMENT TEAM SERVICES LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	29/03/2000	-	02/2006	BUY NOW
BOBBIN EXPRESS EUROPE LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	15/05/2003	-	10/2004	BUY NOW
FINANCE RECLAIM LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	01/07/2008	01/12/2008	02/2013	BUY NOW
FINANCE REDRESS LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	21/07/2008	29/10/2008	11/2011	BUY NOW
OBJECTIVE FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED	Financial Statements not filed / too old	Director	13/10/2008	29/11/2010	-	BUY NOW
MONEY SOLUTIONS MANAGEMENT LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Director	14/07/2009	-	10/2011	BUY NOW
TRAVELLING TRUTH.COM LIMITED	Company is dissolved	Company Secretary	05/06/2000	-	10/2004	BUY NOW
CRYSTAL DEBT SOLUTIONS LIMITED	Active - Newly Incorporated	Director	05/11/2013	-	-	BUY NOW
POSITIVE STEPS LIMITED	Active - Newly Incorporated	Director	07/01/2014	-	-	BUY NOW
ENTERPRISE HOUSE (NW) LTD	Non trading	Director	08/05/2012	-	-	BUY NOW
CLS (CLAIM AND LEGAL SERVICES) LTD	Active - Accounts Filed	Director	28/02/2014	-	-	BUY NOW
GENERAL RECOVERIES LIMITED	In Administration	Director	27/10/2008	-	-	BUY NOW
EQUITY IN FINANCE LIMITED	Active - Accounts Filed	Director	19/12/2006	31/07/2008	-	BUY NOW

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

This may be of interest too http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...ce-Reclaim-Ltd

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

Okay, they have sold the client book to Angle Advances. I have posted a thread about these in the last couple days as they have also bought the client book of another firm with links to Carl Wright. I'll find a link.

Client Update 23 June 2014 We refer to our updates of 11 and 19 June regarding General Recoveries Limited (‘the Company’), which have previously been published on the Harrisons Business Recovery and Insolvency Limited website. These updates advised of our appointment and the sale of the client book to Angel Advance Limited, (‘Angel’).
For clarification, we would reiterate that clients may have known the Company as Marketing and Lead Generation Limited trading as One Debt Solutions, (‘One Debt’) and we have explained our present understanding as to the background and circumstances regarding the change of name below.

[Amethyst]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

HERE http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...dvance-Limited

[Hubbabubla]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

I'll tell you my story......hope you are sitting comfortably......
GR took over from another company One Debt Solution in August 2013. I originally signed up with ODS in 2011. I had been paying a company called Churchwood Financial since around 2006. It was in 2004 that I started getting in to a mess. In total I had debts of around 12k, loans from HSBC, Egg Credit card, and a couple of store cards. I was sort of ok paying Churchwood financial but out of the blue in 2011 whilst I was on maternity leave I received a call from ODS claiming to "write off" a large part of my debt. Sleep deprived, gulable and not with a very level head (hindsight is a wonderful thing) I agreed for them to pursue the case. I got a few calls and letters from my creditors ( none from the original creditors I'd taken loans out with may I add, Robinson Way, Moorcroft, Marlin to name but a few) over a period of a couple of months but things settled down. I was paying them £100 per month. They used to send "updates" every now and again telling me that some creditors didnt have the original credit agreements so things were looking good. I suppose I took my eye off the ball and put it to the back of my mind. I used to have contact with "dean" who informed me in march this year that my plan would be over by September...hooray I thought, the end is in sight. Then last week I came home to a letter from Harrison's explaining what had happened and it suddenly dawned on me that I've been duped!
It says on Harrison's website that clients monies was sat in one big pot, very rarely reconciled, therefore I'm assuming it's all gone and only token payments were ever given to creditors (my amounts on statements were different every time) and yes like you say just waiting to make an offer on full and final settlement (yeah right!). The company assigned by the administrator is Angel advance (or advance angels...it's late and I'm tired!).
Yes I think I'll be sorting this out myself, I'm older and wiser! I want to give my 24 year old self a slap as at 35 I'm still paying for her actions!
a dedicated thread would be good, considering they had 1300 clients out there no one seems to be talking about it!
thanks

[Tools]

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Yes I think I'll be sorting this out myself, I'm older and wiser! I want to give my 24 year old self a slap as at 35 I'm still paying for her actions!
a dedicated thread would be good, considering they had 1300 clients out there no one seems to be talking about it!
thanks

We have all been there and suffered the consequences, but I can assure you many of us are in a better position due in no small part to the help and advice of this and other forums helping us to help ourselves

[Nibbler]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

Okay, they have sold the client book to Angle Advances. I have posted a thread about these in the last couple days as they have also bought the client book of another firm with links to Carl Wright. I'll find a link.

Really? Was too tired to dig much last night. :o

Wonder how that occurred, and if the FCA had a role in suggesting them?

[Nibbler]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

They used to send "updates" every now and again telling me that some creditors didnt have the original credit agreements so things were looking good

It is possible that lack of or problems with agreements can be used as leverage to write debts off or get reduced settlements, but it is usually not as simple as these companies liked to pretend to clients. And there is always the danger that it will end up in court.

As said, it's worth marking agreement requests off your own back for accounts where it could be useful. There are people here who probably have more experience at looking at issues with them than this company and it's predessors ever had.

If former creditors start to push and there are issues, it could given you extra tools to negotiate a low write off or similar.

Important thing is you never need to pay to do this.

[Nibbler]

Re: General Recoveries Limited – In Administration

Similar song to other companies that have gone this way.

Shortfall in Client Monies

It is apparent from information we have been provided with to date, that neither the Company nor One Debt operated individual accounts on behalf of its clients. Client monies were held in a pooled general client bank account and whilst this in itself is not unusual, we would have expected that this account would have been regularly reconciled to the individual client statements to ensure that sufficient funds were held equivalent to the total sums due to all clients.

From our discussions with various parties and early investigations into the affairs relating to client monies, taking in to consideration the amount held in the Company’s general client bank account at the date of our appointment and the level of client funds there ought to be purely in relation to monies received and paid out since the original assignment took place last August, it seems that there will be a significant shortfall in client monies. For the avoidance of doubt this shortfall does not include any liability to clients that may have already been in existence prior to the transfer of the client book on 22^nd August 2013.

Immediately upon our appointment, we advised the Company’s bank to freeze all accounts and also not to accept further monies from clients either by way of direct debit or standing order. We have received confirmation of this in writing. We have also requested that all funds held in the Company’s accounts be transferred to accounts held by us, which we expect to receive shortly.