Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

[torlief]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

Hi fellow victims,
As many will know I also was scammed in the same manner last. Like you all I was frustrated, angry [at myself] and later at the so called agencies supposedly set up to protect the public. Amongst these are the FSo, FSC, Action Fraud, Kent Police force, My MP, The Justice ministry et al. First anger was directed at Barclays bank as they as usual were the fraudsters chosen vehicle for the fraud. Then great anger at my own Bank Nat West who still to this day do not flag up the fact that they discard the intended recipients name from the on line money transfer proforma, indeed they insist on the user entering the information and so deliberately mislead the user. I got nowhere with Barclays, they could not care less. Likewise Nat West. Having written to my MP he replied that he had sent my letter to Jeremy Brown the justice minster. I wrote the original letter on the 4th April last year and he replied on the 18th. I heard again on the 15th July from my Mp enclosing a letter from J Brown himself this dated the 8th May. My MP had sat on ut for 10 weeks. Browns letter wsas probably written by Sir Humphrey Appleby himself being I thought initially a script for Yes Minister. In the letter Brown actually admits that Action Fraud is indeed a fraud itself it being nothing but a quango to keep us common types quiet. Likewise the ay in which he has set the system up means that nobody does anything at all so nobody can be blamed when no one is caught. All the other agencies did not want to know so I relied on the Police. Bad move. I had told the local Pokice on the 4th April and made a full statement. I was givem a crime number and assured that as the fraud was still active, [I had twigged after paying a deposit and was stringing the fraudster along]. I had the account number, Bank brance and even said that I would go to a meet if the plods would just hover and feel their collar for me. No No, leave it to us we will get them. Kent Police proud bost was they are intelligence led force, wonderful. After one week discovered the car was re-advertised, yes on EBAY again. phoned Police with full details and as reassured they were on the case. 2 more weeks passed and in frustration at not hearing about an arrest, [I was assured the Police would keep me fully informed of progress] I phoned again. It took 2 days but then a PC phoned and was so pleased with himself. He had he said finally got his superior to sign the paper so that he could look at the case! God help us because the Police wont.
After lengthy exchanges of letters with Nat West I decided to sue the bank for deliberatly misleading me into believing that they used the name of the intended recipient and concealed the fact that they routinely discarded this. It went to cout at Canterbury Kent and after a 3 hour hearing attended by a lawyer from Nat West main legal team in London I lost my case. The judge whilst sympathetic found that as the bank declared in the small print,[page 8 of terms and conditions and very small print] that in law he could not award against them. This was not unexpected , indeed my main motive was an atttempt to embarrass the bank. I have written to just about every financial journalist, Archbishop of Canterbury, Alaistair Darling , Watchdog, Get even get Dom and uncle tom cobley and all. Had a little interest recently from Radio 4 money program but have not heard back yet.
Asked via Tools to take part in TV program Inside Out and was interviewed last Friday. I am now probably going to be sued for Slander, lible and possibly even treason for expressing my views on MP's and the crazy systems and they and the Banks have put in place and still promote. Together they constitute a grave abuse of the people of this country in that the MP's and Ministers are doing worse than nothing about a fraudulent system perated by the Banks along with constructing their own fraud on the people by foisting yet another Quango [Action Fraud] at a cost of millions no doubt which they knew fro the start was futile. [If they didn't know then the are more culpable than ever.
I will see what reaction the forthcoming TV program has when it is aired. One final thought ! The Investigating Journalist with the program told me that they had approached the Kent Police for comments and perhaps to be interviewed, they refused both requests. They contacted the Norwegian Police as the same scam is in operation thir and there have been links between the 2 countrys. The Norwegians have invited them over next week and being interviewed and are opening their files to the program.
What a contrast to our sorry lot. It seems the rot at the top od our Police force is a lot deeper that we all thought. Hillsborough, Plebgate, etc and it doesnt seem to matter much what the scandal is, the ones who ceeate and profit from the lies and deceipt walk away unscathed. Poice Chiefs, Fred Goodwin, could go on but now getting very depressed.
Best of luck to all, chin up and continue to give these failed politicos, policemen and bankers a very difficult life. May they never know another undisturbed nights sleep.
Torlief


Hi,

Can anyone help. I have been well and truely scammed. I saw an advert on gumtree for a vehicle and posted my details. I was contacted by email by someone giving me the vehicle details and asking if i was still interested. I said I was and my phone number was requested. I was told by this person he would contact ebay through his account and ebay would contact me with their bank details of an interest free account and they would hold the monies until I said I wanted the car. He said he would ensure I was on a payment protection scheme where if I didnt want the vehicle I could get a full refund. I was given a story that he had been divorced and had moved to Scotland and he would pay the shipping fee as he wantd a fast sale. A congratulations with all the ebay logos on was then received by myself via e-mail. Not being a user of ebay everything seemed legitimate. I then got an invoice via e-mail once again with the ebay logos and all the assurance of payment protection on it with a Barclays bank account number, sort code, reference and a beneficiary name. The invoice had a live chat facility and I indeed used this and questioned if this was a legitimate transaction. The answer came back by live chat this was legitimate. I went on this live chat about 6 times to ensure this was legitimate and all seemed well. I thought with Barclays bank account this was legitimate to. I was wrong!!!!!! When I went back on to the live chat an hour after the vehicle should have been delived it still worked but kept stating we are sorry our operatives are with other customers we will be with you shortly but this never materialised and I was not answered. The next day I phoned ebay direct askng for a full refund to be told this was not their account and had nothing to do with them!!!!!! I phoned Barclays and told them this account should be frozen because it was obviously being used for fraudulent activities. I was fobbed off and told by a Barclays member of the fraud dept it would be passed to the relevant dept which I had, in fact, phoned. I have contacted the police and they are investigating. I'm a bit peeved at Barclays complete lack of interest in this and would like to know if there is anyway I could get my money back from Barclays as I this bank account is obviously some kind of holding account for fraudulent activites. I am quite willing to phone every day if I have to do. Advice please. It was a couple of grand I have lost. If there is any way at all I can try and get my money back I will more than willing to try this.

Yours hopefully[/QUOTE]

[Amethyst]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

I very much doubt that people who hack others accounts to sell non existent cars and take payment only by bank transfer then vanish without trace bother to go back to ebay to pay FVF's.

"Hi ebay, it's Peter Holt here, I've just scammed another 8k from one of your customers who think I'm called JaneLovesCharles22 and that I'm sending them a BMW but believe there's a small matter of your commission wants paying, let me know how much it is and I'll send you a cheque......."

But I could be wrong.

[PhilipCohen]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

You all had best come to terms with the fact that eBay will do nothing to stop such scams; as long as they get their FVF on the "sale", real or fraudulent, everything is ok by them. In fact, it can be demonstrated, beyond any doubt, that eBay is an active aider and abettor, before and after the fact, of massive auction fraud on consumers; see http://bit.ly/11F2eas

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/mxdyr39/m....1&_ipg=&_from=

All scams, ebay told about it and they aren't doing a bloody thing!!!

Ebay need their arse kicking for allowing this and it's making me angry

Anyone who can please click report on these items as fraudulent

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

one eyed jack

BAD NEWS.

I've just heard from a scam victim. He sent £8700 for a non-existent Jaguar XF. The bank was BARCLAYS

ACCOUNT NAME : C I Florea
SORT CODE : 20-29-41
ACCOUNT NUMBER : 33593827
IBAN : GB58BARC20294133593827
SWIFTBIC : BARCGB22
BANK NAME : BARCLAYS

Guy has just realised he has been scammed. Posting account for google searches

[mcvitties]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

hi mcvitties here I would just like to let people know I have emailed the CEO of Barclays today I think everyone should do this lets fight together his email address is antony.Jenkins@Barclays.com

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

Thanks CaptainCave, I have also sent you a PM.

[CaptainCave]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

TOOLS here is another bank account for you, I remember that I posted the details about my story here in October so you should have access to those. Thanks again.

Account details:
Bank: TSB
Account holder name: Adolf Voskova Menges
Sort code: 77 91 50
Account number: 23581868

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

Also could you give me specific dates/times of events

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

Hi Mcvitties,

Thank you for posting up the details.

Could you please give more specific details of the Motorhome , Ebay Item number, full description etc and forward on any emails or invoices you had from them to me at jrsiddle@hotmail.co.uk

Many thanks

Jules

[mcvitties]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

hi mcvitties the fraudsters details I got to pay for a motorhome which I never received were BARCLAYS, ACCOUNT NUMBER 83338010, SORT CODE 20-27-49, ACCOUNT NAME PAYTIMOFTE , SELLERS NAME JOHN BURRIDGE

[mcvitties]

Re: Barclays and vehicle scam via ebay and gumtree

hi my partner and I were scammed in November 2013 we thought we had paid for a motorhome we got nothing and lost £3,350.00 this went through Barclays . we have had no joy they offered us £20.01 which was left in the scammers account it is a case off take it or leave it we left it but we have been in touch with our local mp emailed david Cameron emailed watchdog contacted fraud squad and police, this fight must go on Barclays are just insulting people I think we should all email the ceo and keep doing it till they get sick of us jamming their email system up if it was their money things would be dealt with a hell of a lot better and they would get their money back no questions asked

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

Below is a list of know mule accounts used for fraud.

If you are aware of any more please let me know and I can add them to the list.

Bank	Account Name	Sort Code	Account No
Barclays	Robert Koc		60686522
Barclays	Unknown	20-98-21	63182509
Barclays	T. Cyganek	20-29-77	63776190
Barclays	Jacek Bucholc	20-89-15	40094420
Barclays	George Goia	20-96-60	33859479
Barclays	A. Ciule	20-53-04	53761282
Barclays	TopVehicleBrokers Paul Vatman	20-89-16	53691632
Barclays	Christine Burnea	20-53-33	23334678
Barclays	I.Dolanescu	20-53-04	73729095
Barclays	Gumtree UK Geoffery Dumitrescu	20-29-41	93464067
Barclays	Michael Trana	20-73-53	83916928
Barclays	Andrew Booth	20-92-63	93839842
Barclays	Ebay Motors	20-92-60	5379345
Barclays	Edward Costea	20-92-63	63209679
Lloyds TSB	P.Scutto	30-93-50	29731768
Barclays	F. BOHANCU	20-37-21	3222187
Lloyds TSB	Maria Abate	30-99-64	26345168
Barclays	Rafal Strychalski	20-89-15	80575577
Loyds TSB	Rafaele Mannino	77-91-50	23524960
Barclays	Jacob Armes	20-29-41	50064629
Barclays	Luciano Tomasi	20-66-11	83433676
Barclays	Ioan Strugari	20-69-15	93116514
Lloyds TSB	Katarina Busilas	30-92-86	48636968
Lloyds TSB	Katarina Busilas	20-27-91	50993034
Barclays		20-80-12	83381595
Barclays	PB Express	20-29-41	678775
Barclays	A Luchian	20-37-21	53948269
Barclays	Sushanta Raj ARYAL	20-35-35	83982912
Lloyds TSB	Amreen HAROON	30-97-73	12590260
Barclays	Zbigniew Piotr Dorobek	20-98-21	33081559
Barclays	A Kenny	20-20-20	63940470
Barclays	Jurgi Goldberg	20-27-49	23378837
Barclays	I Bunea	20-29-41	13831965
Barclays	E Tractor	20-29-41	63275949
Barclays	T Nowak	20-29-41	63463990
Barclays	David Roberts Transport Ltd	20-29-41	70505544
Barclays	Ionut Pintilie	20-29-77	20068004
Barclays	V Karabusi	20-29-77	33064271
Barclays	A M Parc	20-29-77	43103226
Barclays	Jakum Bakun	20-29-77	53159043
Barclays	R Hustiuc	20-29-77	63902390
Barclays	eBay U.K	20-29-77	63957519
Barclays	D Dragoi	20-35-93	73303136
Barclays	L R Falcao	20-36-16	93699862
Barclays	P Lorient	20-41-41	23503038
Barclays	I Feduc	20-41-41	53943542
Barclays	P Vidnu	20-44-91	53258343
Barclays	Dennis Sears John Higgins	20-44-91	63383172
Barclays	?	20-52-74	23901394
Barclays	Samira B	20-53-04	13532518
Barclays	The Logistics Corporation	20-53-33	93115429
Barclays	Marek Bielawa	20-63-28	391514
Barclays	Central E.B.	20-69-15	3275671
Barclays	S Lascal	20-71-64	93276775
Barclays	Ionut Merticaru	20-71-75	43203298
Barclays	S Andronache	20-74-63	63614565
Barclays	Kevin Brown	20-89-15	13370690
Barclays	Watson	20-89-15	73792684
Barclays	Martin Frone	20-91-79	53756807
Barclays	E Solcanu	20-91-79	63357554
Barclays	C Barbalata	20-91-79	96333438
Barclays	Mihai D Toma	20-92-60	40281158
Barclays	Paul Maddente	20-92-63	3986543
Barclays	M Tomescu	20-92-63	13549216
Barclays	Ian Pascu	20-92-63	63100316
Barclays	F Marandiuc	20-95-61	43351939
Barclays	Cristian Brian	20-95-61	7316859 ??
Barclays	Carla Chiosila	20-95-61	73420760
Barclays	Brian C	20-95-61	73816850
Barclays	Peter Dobre Steven T. Dobre	20-96-55	33752747
Barclays	A Pavarini	20-98-21	13323617
Barclays	Pawel Robert Pastusiak	20-98-21	33973557

Updates to list added 25/01/14

Lloyds TSB

Adolf Voskova Menges

77 91 50

23581868

Barclays	Paytimofte	20-27-49	83338010
Barclays	C I Florea	20-29-41	33593827
Barclays	DS Deliveries LTD	20-35-35	83982912
Banco Santander	ALIN GABRIEL POZSONY		ES3600491482402791417703
TSB	Tadeusz Matusiak	30-98-70	26765368
UNICAJA	ALIN GABRIEL POZSONY		ES82 21030169710010114562

[Tools]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

Apologies for not writing up the events of last Wednesday before now.

To give a brief background, LegalBEAGLES were approached by BBC South East's Inside Outside production team asking if we could put them in touch with victims of Autotrader vehicle sales scams.

After speaking with Justin Windsor, one of their team, and contacting several victims in the South East area we were able to assist the making of the programme, still in progress, and due to be aired in the next few weeks.

As I was scheduled to be in London to meet with EXC and someone else assisting us in our work investigating this matter, I also agreed to be filmed/interviewed as a contributor to the piece representing our forum.

We filmed short snippets for around 3 hours (which will be edited down to a few minutes of course) and hopefully managed to get across the scale of the problem and the inaction by the authorities and listing platforms.

Hopefully this will raise awareness of the issue and put out a strong message not to send money for a vehicle that you have not first been to see, "Without going and kicking the tyres" as I put it.

There are also a few other LegalBEAGLES members being/will be interviewed/contacted about the issue, many thanks from me and no doubt all affected for helping out. My thanks also go to the Team at the BBC who were also happy to promote the issue as well as the LegalBEAGLES forum and it's members. (enough of the Oscars speech I think)

I will let everyone know when the programme is due to air and have been promised a DVD of my screen debut.

The meeting with EXC and our contact also went very well and some interesting ideas / ways forward emerged, the details of which I am unable to post as of yet but will as and when is appropriate.

[Celestine]

Re: Ebay & Gumtree Vehicle / Car Scam. Barclays provide Fraudsters Accounts

*waves*