Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

[Agerag]

EDIT - For information

I have been asked to collate information about this scam so a data pattern can be established to see who is involved.

Could anyone who has been affected by this please send a short PM to me Tools HERE with the following details used in the fraud, these are the details used by the fraudster, not your own personal details.

• Bank Name, Sort Code, Account Number and Name of Account holder
• Ebay/Gumtree listing details, including Make, Model, Price and any links/photos you may have
• Email addresses used
• Telephone numbers
• "Storyline" of where the vehicle is located/suddenly had to move to
• Have you reported it to the Police/your bank/ebay etc?

Also if anyone spots a suspected LIVE listing, please me or a member of the Team know as soon as is possible.

HERE

It may not be able to help those already affected, but hopefully together we can prevent further victims of this fraud.

Many thanks

LB Team

Hi,

Can anyone help. I have been well and truely scammed. I saw an advert on gumtree for a vehicle and posted my details. I was contacted by email by someone giving me the vehicle details and asking if i was still interested. I said I was and my phone number was requested. I was told by this person he would contact ebay through his account and ebay would contact me with their bank details of an interest free account and they would hold the monies until I said I wanted the car. He said he would ensure I was on a payment protection scheme where if I didnt want the vehicle I could get a full refund. I was given a story that he had been divorced and had moved to Scotland and he would pay the shipping fee as he wantd a fast sale. A congratulations with all the ebay logos on was then received by myself via e-mail. Not being a user of ebay everything seemed legitimate. I then got an invoice via e-mail once again with the ebay logos and all the assurance of payment protection on it with a Barclays bank account number, sort code, reference and a beneficiary name. The invoice had a live chat facility and I indeed used this and questioned if this was a legitimate transaction. The answer came back by live chat this was legitimate. I went on this live chat about 6 times to ensure this was legitimate and all seemed well. I thought with Barclays bank account this was legitimate to. I was wrong!!!!!! When I went back on to the live chat an hour after the vehicle should have been delived it still worked but kept stating we are sorry our operatives are with other customers we will be with you shortly but this never materialised and I was not answered. The next day I phoned ebay direct askng for a full refund to be told this was not their account and had nothing to do with them!!!!!! I phoned Barclays and told them this account should be frozen because it was obviously being used for fraudulent activities. I was fobbed off and told by a Barclays member of the fraud dept it would be passed to the relevant dept which I had, in fact, phoned. I have contacted the police and they are investigating. I'm a bit peeved at Barclays complete lack of interest in this and would like to know if there is anyway I could get my money back from Barclays as I this bank account is obviously some kind of holding account for fraudulent activites. I am quite willing to phone every day if I have to do. Advice please. It was a couple of grand I have lost. If there is any way at all I can try and get my money back I will more than willing to try this.

Yours hopefully

[dixie2013]

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2018/09...out-of-pocket/

Dixie 2013

[dogtired]

think I for one have become more suspect and most I have had recently have been obvious spam so just deleted or sent to the sites spam department still good to get heads up, thanks for all you good work.

[dixie2013]

It was from here....
https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rig...k-after-a-scam

After years of this scam happening finally it is becoming apparent that the current situation can not continue. I am sure that one day I will receive my stolen monies back, here's a link from todays FRONT PAGE of the daily mail!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa...customers.html

The only way this will stop is to EDUCATE the facilitators (THE BANKS) on how to identify a mule account and also put a cap on how much cash can be drawn at any one time and re-check the Identity of the person drawing it

Thanks again
Dixie 2013

[Amethyst]

Where's that screenshot from Dixie ?

THis is the PSR's take on it

Payment Systems Regulator confirms plans to protect victims of payment scams

Published 28 02 2018

• New protections for consumers to be in place from September 2018
• Consumer groups and industry players support the need for better protection
• Reimbursement model to be designed by a steering group of consumer and industry representatives overseen by the PSR

The Payment Systems Regulator today announces the outcome of its consultation on introducing a contingent reimbursement model for victims of authorised push payment (APP) scams. An industry code will be in place by September 2018, paving the way for victims of APP scams to have better protection.
The consultation*, which ran from November 2017 to January 2018, gave people the opportunity to provide feedback on the regulator’s plans.
It gathered opinions from the payments industry, consumer groups and individuals to make sure the PSR could understand how best to protect people from APP scams.
There is broad agreement that there is a need to better protect people against APP scams and reduce the harm they cause. Now, following consultation, the regulator is driving forward plans to introduce a contingent reimbursement model.
What’s going to change?

An industry code will be in place from September 2018, which the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) can take into account as a relevant consideration when determining new consumer complaints about APP scams. From September the code will be publicly consulted on to be refined in early 2019 and the regulator expects that it will continue to evolve to ensure preventative measures are up to date. For victims of APP scams, this means they can be confident any claim for reimbursement will be given fairer consideration.
The PSR is also bringing consumer and industry representatives together to establish a dedicated steering group. Led by an independent chair appointed by the PSR, the group will ensure the contingent reimbursement model is designed in the best way to minimise the number of scams in the future and protect victims of scams. The steering group will be required to take into account both consumer and industry needs and meet the regulator’s ambitious timescales. The group will start work in March 2018.
APP scams can have a devastating impact on people and this work is about establishing the right incentives for everyone to prevent and respond to scams.
Paul Smith, Head of Policy at the PSR, says:

“This is about making a positive difference for people to protect them from APP scams. The banks have already made some changes but, from September 2018, this industry code will see better protections available to everyone. We expect the code to evolve over time to make sure methods of preventing APP scams are up to date.
“By creating this steering group, we are bringing the right people together to put protections in place to prevent APP scams from happening, and reduce their impact when they do happen.
“This is a complex piece of work and we have set a challenging timeline, but it is essential we see, as soon as possible, a model that is effective in protecting people.”

Factsheet https://www.psr.org.uk/sites/default...-factsheet.pdf

* Consultation https://www.psr.org.uk/sites/default...nsultation.pdf

[dixie2013]

Also seen this ..

Thanks dixie

[dixie2013]

Hi all, hope you're all well, heard something in relation to this thread on on the news earlier so looked online and firstly seen this which is from Nov 2017.......

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...ransfer-scams/

The actual story I seen was this ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-45634362

I haven't read the article fully yet I am hoping to receive my £3k from sometime in the near future ?

Can I also ask why people/victims have stopped posting on here?

Thanks again
Dixie 2013

[dixie2013]

Looks like this SCAM will never end

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...lands-45018064

I posted a link a while ago abt the payment systems regulator(Google PSR) . Would this sort of scam via banks be covered/investigated by them?

Thanks dixie

[dixie2013]

Looks like this SCAM will never end

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-sc...lands-45018064

I posted a link a while ago abt the payment systems regulator(Google PSR) . Would this sort of scam via banks be covered/investigated by them?

Thanks dixie

[Amethyst]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Bank details if you can get them.... they can be passed on to Barclays ( or whichever bank they are using ) and they can look into them / close them down to stop any other victims losing money to that account.

[martinpft65]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

KEEP THE MONEY its a scam you could carry on asking questions getting info to pass onto the selling site if you have time

I know it's a scam, it just took an extra 5 mins to work out because if her profile and LinkedIn connection. If I thought I was saving a couple of grand on the motorhome, that would be one thing but it was a quarter of what it was worth. I will play along till its time to stop playing along, and post the results. M

[wales01man]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

HI All, currently waiting on some German Architect sending me a £20000 motorhome all for only £6200 . Keep it for a week and send it back if I choose not to keep it , all at her expense. She has even a Linked in profile that I am in the process of checking out , but the alarm bells are ringing/have rung.

KEEP THE MONEY its a scam you could carry on asking questions getting info to pass onto the selling site if you have time

[Amethyst]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

Good to hear your alarm bells are ringing. I'm hoping you haven't transferred any funds ? If you have get on to your bank immediately.

[martinpft65]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

HI All, currently waiting on some German Architect sending me a £20000 motorhome all for only £6200 . Keep it for a week and send it back if I choose not to keep it , all at her expense. She has even a Linked in profile that I am in the process of checking out , but the alarm bells are ringing/have rung.

[dixie2013]

Re: Ebay, Gumtree & Autotrader Vehicle / Car Scams

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41897888

is this the news us victims have been waiting for ?


thanks

dixie2013