PCN from UKPC

[HHEPPY]

Good morning Beagles,




I received a PCN yesterday dated 12/3/2025 issued by UKPC.

I’ve looked up online to see if this is legitimate and it seems so.

can anyone offer advice please as to




1 do I disclose the driver details ( I note some advise not to do this)

2 At the time I owned the vehicle, it was a Taxi and had dropped a member of staff off at the local B&Q early in the morning 6.21am and had simply stayed in the car park for 16 mins, unaware that I was contravening any regulations

3 Should I appeal on the grounds it had legitimate reason to be in the car park at that time?

4 Should I just ignore it as I am no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle, they have contacted me having tracked me down as it were wanting to know who was driving of course




any advice would be greatly received




many thanks

[des8]

Whatever you do, do not identify the driver.

Could you please post up a copy of the PCN (first removing your name & address, reference and vehicle registration numbers, but leave in all dates and times)

When did you dispose of the vehicle?
Did you notify DVLA of the change of keeper at the same time?

[HHEPPY]

Hi, I’ve tried uploading but it says something about the size being wrong, I don’t know how to adjust it unfortunately so I’m a bit stuck, I’m trying to do this via my iPhone
many thanks

[des8]

you could try using a hosting site such as IMGUR (there are others!) and posting a link here.
If that is not viable we shall have to ask admin to assist

[HHEPPY]

Here it is, I’ve surprised myself by managing this

[des8]

So you could write to them along the following lines:


Dear Sirs,

I have just received your Notice to Keeper xxxxx for vehicle VRM xxxx

You have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to deliver the notice within the relevant period of 14 days as prescribed by section 9 (4) of the Act. You cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper.

There is no legal requirement to name the driver at the time and I will not be doing so.

Any further communication with me on this matter, apart from confirmation of no further action and my details being removed from your records, will be considered vexatious and harassment. This includes communication from any Debt Collection companies you care to instruct.

Yours etc

first class post with free certificate of posting from a post office

They may or may not take notice of your letter, but as long as they do not know the identity of the driver you should be ok

[HHEPPY]

Thanks very much for this, I was hoping that this would be the case, would you advise to write rather than email?

many thanks

[des8]

Either or, it doesn't matter except if you write you are creating a paper trail which can be easier (IMO) if the matter ever reaches court (but then as my grandchildren tell me, I'm a dinosaur )

[HHEPPY]

Many thanks once again, I am going to try the thoroughly modern way of emailing, the way that RM works these days I don’t trust it to be delivered within the next fortnight

[HHEPPY]

In addition I note they have an online appeals portal
should I use that too as I note there is a free text area which I can cut and paste the above response into
that way it deals with it as I’ve only emailed their complaints department with the template response
many thanks again

[des8]

By all means send it to their "appeals" dept. and hope they actually read and understand it!
You must realise parking companies are only interested in your money, and they accept relatively few appeals as that course of action doesn't produce an income.
However you might be one of the lucky few

[HHEPPY]

Thanks very much, I had a bounce back reply from the email I sent the appeal to saying don’t send appeals here use the online portal, so I might just send it in the post, to avoid any confusion
many thanks

[HHEPPY]

Hi, here is the reply I have received today what are your thoughts

[des8]

Standard response I've seen countless times as I'm pretty sure they never read victim's appeals.
I would appeal to POPLA as it costs nothing. Obviously they hope that the fear of losing the discounted charge will encourage you to cave in early.
I would dispute this charge all the way, even through the courts, but it is your call.
We will assist if you choose to fight it

[HHEPPY]

Many thanks, should I use the same wording in the appeal as above or do I need to do something different
im happy to go all the way as this is a clear abuse of the process and is a standard letter / response
many thanks