Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

[Guest]

Re: Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

With the utmost respect, CP, whether Inca is belligerent or not she is actually trying to help you here by injecting some common sense. When we are under threat and feel cornered that is often the first thing that goes out of the window, as many of us know to our cost. There is little point in you putting all your hopes and energy into something that you have no prospect at all of winning.

Well, you've got one fan, there. A billigerent one
HA HA!!

[Guest]

Re: Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

I saw it MissFM,,and thankyou ,,however,,the OP is way out of my stratosphere of understanding so I'm retiring gratefully from this thread ...lol

Yes, frankly - your level of understanding was indeed, low.
But maybe that's what it takes to get a private tenant to bring a private prosecution.

It's all helpful - especially the Samaritan I just spoke with, who pointed out a few facts.
Yes, the Samaritans are amazing people.
Truly.
By which I did not mean to imply I am suicidal.
Far from it.
The fresh air this is bringing to me is incredible.

[wales01man]

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Im thinking the OP may have some problems as i said before i respect them for their determination in this matter but feel they are acting in a very strange way to others on here the forum is not the place to post like that

[Guest]

Re: Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

Im thinking the OP may have some problems as i said before i respect them for their determination in this matter but feel they are acting in a very strange way to others on here the forum is not the place to post like that

I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not acting strangely at all!
I think you are, though!

Others may agree.
And it's not my problem what anyone else thinks.

[Inca]

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Dear Ms Passy,
I feel your wrath is disproportionately placed at my feet,,I realise you face the very real prospect of being unceremoniously booted out of 'your' home by the vexatious Landlord who,,by your own admission,has declared an interest in selling the property. I know not of a law in this fair land that dictates he has to have your permission so to do,nor does he have to allow you the courtesy of choosing who he sells said property to.Indeed,that comes under a long known rule called 'None of Your Business'.
I realise that this traumatic time can manifest itself in all sorts of ways,in you,if I may be so bold,it has left you devoid of any manners and unable to comprehend any opinion that does not totally concur with your rather 'quaint' way of interpreting the laws regarding tenant/landlord agreements.

Your thread veers away from the original points at remarkable speed,as do your posts,you alter them faster than a bullet from a gun,,t'is very hard to follow which causes confusion (and not just for the reader),you do tend to contradict yourself an awful lot,,and sway from point to irrelevant point frequently.

I shall leave my ruminations there,,so to sum up:-
You are one of the rudest,most arrogant people I have had the misfortune to come across,any help you have been offered you have slapped back in the face of the poster if it isn't EXACTLY what you want to hear/read.
Your thread rambles more than a bunch of Sunday morning walkers on Scarfell Pike,,it makes no sense so therefore becomes nonsense.
And,,,,,the all encompassing burning question I know many others as well as I wish to know the answer to:-

IF YOU'RE A CLAIRVOYANT WHY OH WHY DIDN'T YOU SEE THIS EVICTION COMING.

Thankyou for reading this (and I know you have,,you wouldn't be able to resist it,,I don't need 'powers' to tell me that)

Kindest Regards

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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Have to agree that asking for advice and opinions them being diliberatly offensive towards them is, to put it mildly, odd.

Part of our role here is to be honest, and save you money, and Inca is attempting to do so, by pointing out a strong possibility that you will lose.

You say it is your human right to a home, but it is also your landlord's right to sell his own property, that's like saying I can't move home because my kids don't want to!

We are simply trying to bring the other side of the argument in, and save you face. I find you post to Inca aggressive and uncalled for, and with respect if you speak to the landlord like that, there is ample reason for eviction in my mind.

And one final point, Inca is one of the most intelligent women I know, to provide the dictionary definition of billigerent is frankly insulting.

[Guest]

Re: Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

I'm not joining in abuse, so won't be replying to any more posts offensive to me.
You're only abusing yourselves.

[alham]

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I'm not joining in abuse, so won't be replying to any more posts offensive to me.
You're only abusing yourselves.

Sorry for being dim but am I missing something?

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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In an effort to get the thread back on track, I will pick my cousin's brain.
She is a qualified barrister in the Temple London.
I will see what she says regarding the whole Human Right defence.
Please note, I will NOT change her opinion in the hope of saving your feelings, I respect my cousin too much, nor will I divulge her name as this had no bearing on the legality of your claim
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[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

To the best of her knowledge, no claim has ever been made of a breach of human rights with eviction that did not include one of the following:
a threat to life (domestic violence)
a imminent birth
chdren involved.

Whilst she agrees respect is a basic human right this will have no bearing on an eviction claim, especially if the landlord is selling his property.

I have brought up the issue of the repairs not being done, to her mind your best course would be to have the work done and bring a claim for the cost, as withholding rent can be a reason for eviction, and for not doing the work!!

[MissFM]

Re: Private tenants can use human rights to prevent s21 eviction

Christian Passy

You have been offered very good advice on this site. People of huge experience and intelligence have taken time and put in enormous effort to try to help you.

The advice you are receiving now is clearly not what you want to hear but it is sound.

It is very upsetting that you are choosing to insult those who have given their time and expertise to try to help you. Maybe that has meant telling you that you are fighting a lost cause but it is genuine, informed advice, even if it does conflict with your own opinion. You should appreciate the need to see the other side of things as will be presented should you continue with this , frankly, suicidal court action. The choice is yours - but please don't greet attempts to help you with insults and abuse .

with best wishes

FM

[Guest]

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If anyone's serious about helping in this case, please let me know by private message.
I can see a public consumer forum isn't always the best place.
I will not be using this thread further.
Feel free to criticise.
No-one here is looking any longer.

[Inca]

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If anyone's serious about helping in this case, please let me know by private message.

I can see a public consumer forum isn't always the best place.

I don't think LB approves of help by private message,,preferred method is open forum,less chance of mis-interpretation.

[labman]

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Thankyou, your remark is motivating me to pursue the offences my landlord's agent have (and therefore he has) committed under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.

Yes, there are plenty in there......it's quite clear.
Maybe we need a private prosecution.
Because God knows, no-one seems to understand the situation of private tenants.
They have no home, anywhere.
This is not reasonable.

Oh, by the way - where did I say it was my house?
I merely said I had a right to respect for my home.
It's in article 8 of the Human Rights Act 1998, and legally enforceable.
My home is situate in the landlord's property.
It is a financial, psychological and social asset necessary to basic survival of a human being.

You're belligerent, Inca, with all due respect.
(bel·lig·er·ent (b -l j r- nt). adj. 1. Inclined or eager to fight; hostile or aggressive. 2. Of, pertaining to, or engaged in warfare. n. One that is hostile or aggressive, ...)

If you want to say something constructive, please do so.
I can't guarantee to reply, as I'm working this evening, but you may feel better for it.
As you treat me, you treat yourself - it's a law of mind.
It's you problem, really, not mine.

Hello CP,

I apologise for being late to the interesting discussion going on here, and I won't be contributing much. However, as I understand it, you are intending to bring a private prosecution under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.

Please would you allow me to save you some money? A private individual cannot bring a prosecution under CPUTR 2008. Action utilising this piece of legislation can only be brought by local authorities, the Office of Fair Trading or similar enforcement authorities. Sadly these do not include individuals.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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Tbh there is no case from what I can see.
The human rights argument is not going to wash, and to be told I am not being serious when I have asked a fully trained barrister on your behalf, I now owe my cousin a meal, is quite frankly downright rude.

Why ask for help if you discard it out of hand, I simply do not understand it!

I can assure you that you enquiry has been treated with total seriousness, you talk about respect and yet treat people with contempt when you receive an answer.

Unfortunatly you will not get the answer you want, as none of us wish to lie to you or see you waste money on a lost cause.