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  • Breach of school safeguarding?

    Hi, I have been trying to find the right place for this question. Hopefully you can help.

    A woman I know works in a secondary education academy, as a TA. She has a son currently in the school. She has another older son who committed a serious crime, that requires safeguarding of both the child in the school, and also the woman employed by the school. Basically it is not supposed to be spread to protect them, as they played no part in the crime.

    The woman has a line manager, a teacher, head of department in fact. The school had some student teachers in recently. This teacher, told those student teachers to "google" certain words to find this crime, and pointed to the woman, and said "that's his mother"

    These students then went back to University, and mentioned it to their tutor. They then had a lesson on whether this woman 'should' be allowed to work in a school.

    So this teacher told people who did not need to know, and connected this crime to the woman, and also the process the child in the school, as the students knew the child was the woman's son, as he was in the lessons with them all throughout their time there and the fact they were mother and son (the child) was well known.

    I sure they will be prepared to give statements, maybe along with the Uni tutor the student teachers told.

    Now the academy are aware of this, including the owners of it, but have taken no action. Is this a breach of safeguarding, and should this be taken above the school?

    This is not the only issue with this teacher. They have also been reported for racism by numerous people, but no action was taken. I'll post a few quotes of what has she said to various people below, bearing in mind she is a white teacher, working in a diverse school.
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Regarding an Asian teacher who wore a headscarf -

    "I'll wanna take her scarf off and strangle her with it"

    1 witness to this (the woman)

    ------------------------------------------------------

    Regarding the Asian teacher again -

    "little Muslim bitch"

    about a black teacher

    "Black bastard"

    1 witness (the woman)

    ---------------------------------------------------

    In earshot of the Asian teacher, and the woman. This was about he Asian teacher.

    "****ing Muslim Bitch"

    2 witnesses, however 1 statemented the above, the other in statement said "****in Muslim bitch"
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  • #2
    Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

    Does this affect you personally or are you just concerned? as for the comments you quote its up to the ones it was aimed at to complain calling people names is common in this world does not mean they are illegal comments if TV personalities can get away with such remarks it shows its common place you can pass laws but we still have free speech.
    I will never condone racist or other remarks aimed at others nut that's life people say things they probably do not mean to

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    • #3
      Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

      I was asked for advice, and as I am related to the woman, I will do what I can.

      They did complain. As I said above, no action was taken.

      Do you have an opinion on the safeguarding issue?

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      • #4
        Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

        I would escalate the complaint if there is any possible danger to another child or adult this must be addressed and sorted

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        • #5
          Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

          Who authorised/arranged the safeguarding arrangement? Court/Police/Social Services?

          It certainly appears that this teacher is a troublemaker and has no regard for the safeguarding arrangement. I feel especially sorry for the younger son who will have been affected by such disregard.

          I disagree with the comments above, the statements made...especially in a school setting are inappropriate and racist. How come other staff haven't complained...or have they?
          "Although scalar fields are Lorentz scalars, they may transform nontrivially under other symmetries, such as flavour or isospin. For example, the pion is invariant under the restricted Lorentz group, but is an isospin triplet (meaning it transforms like a three component vector under the SU(2) isospin symmetry). Furthermore, it picks up a negative phase under parity inversion, so it transforms nontrivially under the full Lorentz group; such particles are called pseudoscalar rather than scalar. Most mesons are pseudoscalar particles." (finally explained to a captivated Celestine by Professor Brian Cox on Wednesday 27th June 2012 )

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            Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

            [QUOTE=Celestine;634299]Who authorised/arranged the safeguarding arrangement? Court/Police/Social Services?

            I am not sure, I will find out.


            It certainly appears that this teacher is a troublemaker and has no regard for the safeguarding arrangement. I feel especially sorry for the younger son who will have been affected by such disregard.

            She is, this is not the half of it, she is also under investigation for cheating after the Asian woman complained to the exam board after discovering it. The young lad had to be told by his mother to make him aware it was being spread. His work has suffered since. This is his final exam year.

            I disagree with the comments above, the statements made...especially in a school setting are inappropriate and racist. How come other staff haven't complained...or have they?[/QUOTE

            The school are aware of the allegations, but yet chose to focus on the discrepancy of the swearing. They are both clear about the "..Muslim bitch" part, but the woman said as this was a daily occurrence, she may have been mistaken about the swearing as it is usually "****in Muslim bitch" ....or "little Muslim bitch"


            Also, the teacher has a school laptop. She leaves it open, along with her emails on occasion. The Asian lady told the woman that she saw a comment in an email where the teacher apparently said, along the lines of, that she will 'make sure they know about his family problem when he goes to further education'....this about the child moving on to college, and was I was told to another teacher in the school, her mate (who's just as bad I'm told). Now this is on her school laptop. Is there a legal was this can be accessed without alerting her via IT or something? The school are really not to be trusted.

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            • #7
              Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

              I'd be seeking an urgent meeting with the local education authority. There is possibly an ingrained culture at this school so speak to those responsible for funding and regulating the school at a higher level.
              "Although scalar fields are Lorentz scalars, they may transform nontrivially under other symmetries, such as flavour or isospin. For example, the pion is invariant under the restricted Lorentz group, but is an isospin triplet (meaning it transforms like a three component vector under the SU(2) isospin symmetry). Furthermore, it picks up a negative phase under parity inversion, so it transforms nontrivially under the full Lorentz group; such particles are called pseudoscalar rather than scalar. Most mesons are pseudoscalar particles." (finally explained to a captivated Celestine by Professor Brian Cox on Wednesday 27th June 2012 )

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              • #8
                Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                I'll pass this on and get back. Thanks.

                Another issue I remembered was the woman gave a statement regarding the racist comments. She wants a copy of her statement. The head is asking why, and it seems trying to scare her off taking a copy. Is she entitled to a copy of her statement?

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                • #9
                  Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                  Originally posted by SAPFO View Post
                  Hi, I have been trying to find the right place for this question. Hopefully you can help.

                  A woman I know works in a secondary education academy, as a TA. She has a son currently in the school. She has another older son who committed a serious crime, that requires safeguarding of both the child in the school, and also the woman employed by the school. Basically it is not supposed to be spread to protect them, as they played no part in the crime.

                  The woman has a line manager, a teacher, head of department in fact. The school had some student teachers in recently. This teacher, told those student teachers to "google" certain words to find this crime, and pointed to the woman, and said "that's his mother"

                  These students then went back to University, and mentioned it to their tutor. They then had a lesson on whether this woman 'should' be allowed to work in a school.

                  So this teacher told people who did not need to know, and connected this crime to the woman, and also the process the child in the school, as the students knew the child was the woman's son, as he was in the lessons with them all throughout their time there and the fact they were mother and son (the child) was well known.

                  I sure they will be prepared to give statements, maybe along with the Uni tutor the student teachers told.

                  Now the academy are aware of this, including the owners of it, but have taken no action. Is this a breach of safeguarding, and should this be taken above the school?

                  This is not the only issue with this teacher. They have also been reported for racism by numerous people, but no action was taken. I'll post a few quotes of what has she said to various people below, bearing in mind she is a white teacher, working in a diverse school.
                  ------------------------------------------------------
                  Regarding an Asian teacher who wore a headscarf -

                  "I'll wanna take her scarf off and strangle her with it"

                  1 witness to this (the woman)

                  ------------------------------------------------------

                  Regarding the Asian teacher again -

                  "little Muslim bitch"

                  about a black teacher

                  "Black bastard"

                  1 witness (the woman)

                  ---------------------------------------------------

                  In earshot of the Asian teacher, and the woman. This was about he Asian teacher.

                  "****ing Muslim Bitch"

                  2 witnesses, however 1 statemented the above, the other in statement said "****in Muslim bitch"
                  Academy complaints are dealt with like private company investigations. I believe there is a 3 stage complaints' system. Tell the academy that there has been a breach of trust by the academy in relation to the abandonment of safeguarding pupils in sensitive circumstances and breach of trust by the teacher whose duty is owed to its pupils/ their families indirectly, to act as reasonable professional teacher. It is also defamation as the person linked to the crime and their family have been made vulnerable by this teacher's negligent actions. You therefore require a thorough investigation, if there are racial issues too then it is racial discrimination complaint c/o the Equality Act 2010. The Academy is under a legal responsibility to ensure it and its staff comply with equality law. It could also be a Human Rights' Act 1998 violation 'degrading treatment.'

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                  • #10
                    Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                    The woman is trying to get a copy of her own statement she gave to the head regarding the teachers cheating. The head is reluctant, and it seems trying to scare her off. Is she entitled to a copy of her own statement?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                      Originally posted by SAPFO View Post
                      The woman is trying to get a copy of her own statement she gave to the head regarding the teachers cheating. The head is reluctant, and it seems trying to scare her off. Is she entitled to a copy of her own statement?
                      Yes, she can request the information as a Subject Access Request. But why doesn't she have her own copy?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                        She gave it verbally I think, and was not offered a copy. Yes, I said SAR myself, but that can take upto 40 days if they are wise enough. Is that the only way she can get her hands on it?

                        She says the head said last time "why do you want your statement, you could be seen as colluding with the other person who reported the cheating"....This worried the woman.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                          Originally posted by SAPFO View Post
                          She gave it verbally I think, and was not offered a copy. Yes, I said SAR myself, but that can take upto 40 days if they are wise enough. Is that the only way she can get her hands on it?

                          She says the head said last time "why do you want your statement, you could be seen as colluding with the other person who reported the cheating"....This worried the woman.
                          She should have said, I just want to verify what I have said as I cannot recall the information and would like a copy for my own records so I can rely on that information. It is normal to want access to important information that has been previously said and this in no way implies there is any collusion, it's just being professional. Say, I have the right to be treated with respect and dignity and if I were to be treated in a degrading manner it is simply a European Convention of Human Rights' Article, as incorporated by the Human Rights' Act 1998, violation. The head cannot remember every single thing so they too make notes and statements.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                            Thanks. The Headmaster has said to her she cannot have them, as it has now gone to an external body.

                            Police are involved for the racism.
                            Last edited by SAPFO; 22nd March 2016, 18:42:PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Breach of school safeguarding?

                              They are saying she cannot have her statement as it has gone above the school now. Should they have copies if she SAR's the school? He made a comment as the woman was leaving regarding it being about the woman's safeguarding. It may be that they have now taken the Asian woman's allegations seriously after initially saying there was no case to answer. Covering their arse are they? This could be bad for whoever decided there was nothing in it surely?

                              I think with the cheating, and the racism, this will explode.

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