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  • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

    Noted, thank you all for your help up to this point, I'm sure there will be more, but for now have a good evening and I'll update you tomorrow after the meeting

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      [MENTION=67649]matt3942[/MENTION] [MENTION=19071]teaboy2[/MENTION]

      So the meeting was held this morning, and I do have a recording of it if I am allowed to send it to any of you to listen?

      The notes from the meeting are attached, it is worth me telling you that the chair of the meeting towards the end (and it is on the recording) asked my OH to take certain points out because they only wanted a maximum of three main points.

      Thoughts and advice welcome please

      Thanks

      -Rob
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        Are you taking the piss!! The chair told your OH to remove certain points of her grievance? Thats no different to telling her what she can and can not make a grievance about. I hope she hasn't removed any points, and stood her ground?

        How long is the recording?

        i shall pm you my email address so you can send a copy.

        Also did they say when they would be sending you a copy of the minutes?
        Last edited by teaboy2; 16th July 2015, 12:25:PM.
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        • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

          Originally posted by teaboy2 View Post
          Are you taking the piss!! The chair told your OH to remove certain points of her grievance? Thats no different to telling her what she can and can not make a grievance about. I hope she hasn't removed any points, and stood her ground?

          How long is the recording?

          i shall pm you my email address so you can send a copy.

          Also did they say when they would be sending you a copy of the minutes?
          Received your PM and file on it's way. You will hear it for yourself. Even on the document it states that their legal advice tell them no more than 3 points!

          The only notes that were made in that meeting by them were the writing on the plain unheaded paper, so as far as it goes now, those are the minutes! :tinysmile_aha_t:

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            Originally posted by RJH View Post
            Received your PM and file on it's way. You will hear it for yourself. Even on the document it states that their legal advice tell them no more than 3 points!

            The only notes that were made in that meeting by them were the writing on the plain unheaded paper, so as far as it goes now, those are the minutes! :tinysmile_aha_t:
            Lol those are the minutes!!! Oh dear oh dear (shaking head in disbelief) - They haven't a clue have they.

            As for their legal advice - BULLSHIT, no lawyer or solicitor in the whole country would give out such advice!! They are basically trying to limit what she can make a grievance about in order to limit any damage and prevent her making a claim on the most damaging points and if i remember correctly, there was terms in her contract that limited her to what she could make a grievance about, though said terms are invalid as you can not limit what an employee can make a grievance about, as they have a statutory right to raise a grievance and there's no limit to that right in regards to what they can make a grievance about! So their plan or intentions are not going to work, if anything its going to back fire spectacularly on them!
            Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

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            • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

              Just what I thought, clearly trying to get out of it!

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                there response to the grievance will be interesting... that is for sure lol
                Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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                • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

                  Well, it should be with us no later than July 31st.

                  I feel a bit more confident about it all after this meeting.

                  When you've listened to the recording, I'd be interested to hear your interpretation and thoughts.

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                    I'll have a listen to it later, not sure if i've received it yet actually either. Will check in a bit though and let you know if i got it or not!

                    UPDATE - Yes i have got the email!
                    Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                    By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                    If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                    I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                    The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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                    • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

                      It's 14.5MB so probably still fighting its way through

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                      • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

                        Hi [MENTION=59438]RJH[/MENTION] - I'd also be interested in listening. I'll PM you my e-mail address.

                        - Matt
                        Disclaimer: I am not a qualified solicitor. Nothing provided herein should be used as a substitute for professional legal advice. As legal advice must be tailored to the specific circumstances of each case, and laws are constantly changing, you should seek professional legal advice before acting upon any opinion, advice or information provided herein.

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                          [MENTION=59438]RJH[/MENTION] [MENTION=19071]teaboy2[/MENTION] - On the 'minutes' it says their legal advice has been that a maximum of 3 sub-points be included against each grievance. Going on this alone it doesn't seem like the employer is trying to limit the number of points you may raise as a grievance.

                          - Matt
                          Disclaimer: I am not a qualified solicitor. Nothing provided herein should be used as a substitute for professional legal advice. As legal advice must be tailored to the specific circumstances of each case, and laws are constantly changing, you should seek professional legal advice before acting upon any opinion, advice or information provided herein.

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                          • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

                            Originally posted by matt3942 View Post
                            @RJH @teaboy2 - On the 'minutes' it says their legal advice has been that a maximum of 3 sub-points be included against each grievance. Going on this alone it doesn't seem like the employer is trying to limit the number of points you may raise as a grievance.

                            - Matt
                            Exactly my thoughts @matt3942 - Hence why i couldn't help but laugh in disbelief that they stated it in reference to legal advice they had been given. They even say the same in the recording too. Second half is more about sorting copies of documents out i think, from what i can make out via listening on my computers speakers. Currently listening to it as i type so not got to the end yet though.

                            Lol just got to the end, he tried getting her to drop point 6 and 7 when they support other points. How the hell can anyone not even see that. His reason was based on timescale as to when they happened from what i can make out. But timescale is irrelevant as they are all related and therefore everything is a continuation of the first event!

                            @RJH - Well done to your other half though, could tell she was nervous with voice cracking slightly, but she held it together so give her a pat on the back from us!
                            Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                            By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                            If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                            I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                            The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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                            • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

                              Thanks [MENTION=19071]teaboy2[/MENTION] [MENTION=67649]matt3942[/MENTION] - is there anything that might be incriminating on their part from that so far then?
                              [MENTION=67649]matt3942[/MENTION] have you had chance to listen?

                              - Rob

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                              • Re: Pregnant and made redundant - HELP

                                Apart from trying to restrict the points of the grievance, no not really, well not more than they already have done anyway. But they have still to produce the documents requested yet, so lets wait and see!
                                Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                                By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                                If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                                I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                                The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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