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  • **DISCONTINUED!** Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

    Over the past 8 years I’ve been receiving letters for Lowells demanding money on behalf of T-Mobile which has since changed to EE Limited. The letters would come through to my previous address where I lived in 2010 for 3 years, then in the last 2/3 years I started to get the letters again to my current address where I moved in 2013.

    I've just been on holiday and just come back today (20th June 2017) to a Claim Form from the County Court Business Centre in Northampton (attached) and I wanted to know what steps to take. Below is come info and dates around the claim.

    Issue Date: 14th June
    Amount approx: £350 plus court fees
    Claimant: Solicitor: Lowell Solicitors
    Original Creditor: EE Limited (Formerly T-Mobile)
    Particulars of Claim: I’m not entirely sure what this claim relates to, I’ve had T mobile accounts in the past (over 8-9 years ago) all which were closed correctly by giving notice to the company and final bills being paid. I had one account for my sister and this is the only one I can think off. I haven’t got any details of these on my credit file and have a clean history so assumed the letters from Lowell’s was a con and ignored them. I think the last payment or bill I would have made to T-Mobile would have been over 7 years ago, as I have not had a contract with them since my daughter was born.

    I know I have to move quickly as I have lost a week due to being on holiday and I want to avoid getting a CCJ.

    I have complete a CRP which I will send tomorrow with a £1 postal order , but I wanted to check if there’s anything else I need to do along with this. Below is my CRP, I wasn’t sure what to put in the bits highlighted in orange. Also the claimant is Lowell Portfolio I Ltd, do a send this to them and their solicitor which is Lowell Solicitors Limited

    Lowell Portfolio I Ltd
    Ellington House
    9 Savannah Way
    Leeds
    West Yorkshire
    LS10 1AB


    Dear Sirs,

    Claim Number: XXXXXXXXXXx

    Request for documents mentioned in a statement of case under CPR 31.14

    On 20/06/2017 I received a County Court claim from yourselves of which I have acknowledged receipt indicating my intention to defend in full.

    To enable me to file my defence and/or counterclaim, I require inspection of documents you mention in your statement of case ahead of filing my defence on
    XX XXXX 201X.


    NB: ONLY LIST HERE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE PARTICULARS OF CLAIM ON THE FRONT OF THE CLAIM FORM - eg. IF THEY DON'T MENTION ' DEFAULT NOTICE' YOU CANNOT ASK FOR IT UNDER CPR 31.14, IF THEY MENTION CONTRACT rather than AGREEMENT - ask for the CONTRACT...IF IN DOUBT TYPE OUT THE PARTICULARS OF CLAIM AND ASK ON THE FORUM.( and remove this paragraph too!!!!)
    for EXAMPLE
    1. Agreement / Contract
    2. Default Notice
    3. Assignment
    4. Formal Demand

    In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

    You should note that this claim has not yet been allocated to a specific track and the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect. Had your claim not been issued through CCBC the Claimant would have been obliged to attach copies of the documentation upon which it relies to the Particulars of Claim. I , as Defendant, am entitled to see the documents on which the Claimant relies and which you will have to produce at trial. Disclosure at this stage will enable me to fully plead my case and further the Overriding Objective.

    You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter.

    If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing and confirm your agreement to an extension of the time allowed for me to file my defence as allowed under CPR 15.5 so I may notify the court.

    For your information and records I enclose a copy of the formal request for a copy of the credit agreement relating to this claim, pursuant to the Consumer Credit Act 1974, which has been posted to your client with the statutory fee of £1 today,
    XX XXXX 201X.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Yours sincerely

    Any Help is greatly appreciated
    Attached Files
    Last edited by Kati; 21st June 2017, 13:11:PM.
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  • #2
    Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

    Hi
    First the cpr request goes to the solicitors and you can only ask for items mentioned in the POC so from what I see you can not ask for a default notice

    Secondly , as it was a telecoms contract ( unless it was a part service and part credit for the phone) a s78 is no good to you.

    I do know that O2 do credit agreements where you pay x for the phone and x for the agreement and then when the phone is paid for you just continue with the service agreement

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    • #3
      Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

      It wasnt a part service, part goods, im on that type of contract now myself.

      So all i have to do for now is send the CPR to the solicitor asking for the Items mentioned. Is there anything else I'll need? should i send anything to T-Mobile as i currently have no details on what this debt is for i.e. A phone nimber relating the the account, when it was last online and who paid the last bill.

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      • #4
        Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

        you could try a SAR to Tmobile (it'll cost you £10) - https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations...ccess-request/
        Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

        It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

        recte agens confido

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        • #5
          Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

          I have complete a CRP which I will send tomorrow with a £1 postal order
          The CPR 31.14 doesn't require a fee (other than reasonable payment for copying if asked for by the Claimant/Sols).
          CAVEAT LECTOR

          This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

          You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
          Cohen, Herb


          There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
          gets his brain a-going.
          Phelps, C. C.


          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
          The last words of John Sedgwick

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          • #6
            Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

            Okay so i won't have to send the postal order. I'm ust typing my letter up now removing the bits not needed and then i'll go to the post office and send reocrdered delivery.

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            • #7
              Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

              Sorry , I should have asked, have you acknowledged the claim online . You need to register if you haven't got a government gateway account and use the password on the claim form .

              Tick defend all and do not enter anything in the defence box

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              • #8
                Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                Yep, just acknowledged the claim today, i havent done anything in the defence box yet as i need to try and gather some information first and also get advice on here. I believe i have 28 days from the date on that letter which takes me to 12th July right? Plus 5 days

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                • #9
                  Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                  Originally posted by m150984 View Post
                  Yep, just acknowledged the claim today, i havent done anything in the defence box yet as i need to try and gather some information first and also get advice on here.
                  Can you confirm that you were able to file your acknowledgement via MCOL while leaving the 'defence' box blank?
                  I have done so recently & had no problem, but others have said that they had instruction (via the MCOL website) that it was a mandatory field which required some dialogue to be entered.

                  I believe i have 28 days from the date on that letter which takes me to 12th July right? Plus 5 days
                  33 days from the claim issue date, & if that falls on a weekend/Bank Hol, then the next working day.
                  ####
                  CAVEAT LECTOR

                  This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                  You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                  Cohen, Herb


                  There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                  gets his brain a-going.
                  Phelps, C. C.


                  "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                  The last words of John Sedgwick

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                  • #10
                    Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                    Yes I had no problems leaving it blank, its there as an option we i log in now

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                    • #11
                      Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                      Today I received the attached from Lowell Solicitors, is this normal after receiving a claim form from them?
                      Attached Files

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                      • #12
                        Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                        Hi

                        I can only tell you that I received one of those after my claim was issued so I guess it is normal - or as normal as lowell Solicitors get

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                        • #13
                          Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                          Did you respond to it. I have already sent them a CPR request yesterday. Also how did you get on with them in the end?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                            No i didnt respond to that. My claim is currently waiting to be heard.

                            It is for a shade over 5k
                            I did all the right things, cca request Cpr request and a SAR to the original creditor.

                            I am hopeful about the outcome,at least hopeful.it won't end up with a ccj

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                            • #15
                              Re: Claim Form Recieved, Questions!

                              Hi Guys,

                              Today I reiceved this letter from Lowells, they seem to have all their dates mixed up about when I need to respond to the claim form. I recieved the form on 14th June but they say i need to respond by 19th June which has now past. They're also not providing any info i requested in my CPR and I never requested a default notice, below s the letter i sent them last week. Any advice. I still have no clue as to what this debt is for, I have checked my credit file for the past 6 years and its completely clean.

                              Dear Sirs,

                              Claim Number: D1HK8X07

                              Request for documents mentioned in a statement of case under CPR 31.14

                              On 20/06/2017 I received a County Court claim from yourselves of which I have acknowledged receipt indicating my intention to defend in full.

                              To enable me to file my defence and/or counterclaim, I require inspection of documents you mention in your statement of case ahead of filing my defence on 12 July 2017.

                              1. Agreement / Contract
                              3. Assignment
                              4. Formal Demand


                              In accordance with CPR 31.15(c) I undertake to be responsible for your reasonable copying costs incurred in complying with this CPR 31.14 request.

                              You should note that this claim has not yet been allocated to a specific track and the provisions of CPR 27(2) are of no effect. Had your claim not been issued through CCBC the Claimant would have been obliged to attach copies of the documentation upon which it relies to the Particulars of Claim. I , as Defendant, am entitled to see the documents on which the Claimant relies and which you will have to produce at trial. Disclosure at this stage will enable me to fully plead my case and further the Overriding Objective.

                              You should ensure compliance with your CPR 31 duties and ensure that the document(s) I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter.

                              If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing and confirm your agreement to an extension of the time allowed for me to file my defence as allowed under CPR 15.5 so I may notify the court.

                              I look forward to hearing from you.
                              Attached Files

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