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  • #16
    Re: Restons / cabot

    they always state you will have the document already in your possession and for small claims they do not have to supply = they are right but only after allocation of case before they are liable. and they know it, just because they send speculative claim without having documents is their problem.

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    • #17
      Re: Restons / cabot

      1 ) i already asked for agreement, which they replied i had a copy of when i took out a debt ? a debt i know nothing about - so dont know how i can defend myself without this evidence .... but am sending a letter again tomoz with £1 postal order
      That was a silly if rather generic reply. If you send a CCA request, once the 14 working days are over, they cannot enforce the debt until they comply.
      2) I didnt realise i could ask the court for extension? do i just send a letter asking without my defence form then?
      No, you need to contact the claimant's solicitors to start with, and ask them to agree to a 28 day extension. Make sure you quote CPR 15.5. You will find it here: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/pr...es/part15#15.5 If they agree, you need to inform the court in writing. If they don't agree, you need to submit your defence in time.
      3) They havent got judgement against me
      Good to know, just wondering because you said you were going to apply for set aside.
      4) I am mentioning in my defence statue barred
      OK
      5) I only filled in n244 form as i have never done any of ths stuff before and just "googled".... debt its for £790
      Ah, you don't need that one at the moment.

      i havent the foggiest what im doing tbf- but i know that no debt i have accumulated since 2008 so im just googling how to go about this all ?
      :tinysmile_hmm_t2:
      The problem with that is that Google indexes everything indiscriminately. Better to stick to one place such as this forum.

      Oh and i reported them to obudsman as i wrote to them saying debt would be statue barred and to provide evidence it is not, and i wanted to see proof of documents to when they just went straight to court
      The Ombudsman probably won't do much about it and they do take their time. You still need to get your defence in.

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      • #18
        Re: Restons / cabot

        It doesn't matter even if you had a thousand copies of the agreement in your possession.

        They are duty bound by virtue of CCA 1974 (as amended) to supply you with a copy of the original agreement, T & C's as at inception, any updates & a statement of the account within 12 days (+ 2 for post), or give written reason why they cannot comply.

        (Maybe you want 1001 copies 'cos you don't like dalmations! )
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        • #19
          Re: Restons / cabot

          Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
          It doesn't matter even if you had a thousand copies of the agreement in your possession.

          They are duty bound by virtue of CCA 1974 (as amended) to supply you with a copy of the original agreement, T & C's as at inception, any updates & a statement of the account within 12 days (+ 2 for post), or give written reason why they cannot comply.

          (Maybe you want 1001 copies 'cos you don't like dalmations! )
          I cannot thank you all enough for all your help - im a blind man (or woman) walking and out of my depth (not a great swimmer)

          Today i posted a CCA request to Cabot with £1 postal order
          I also wrote to their solicitors asking to agree an extension under CPR 15.5

          is that right?

          Now i await their replies before i put in my defence
          also will get rid of N244

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          • #20
            Re: Restons / cabot

            Originally posted by manda View Post
            I also wrote to their solicitors asking to agree an extension under CPR 15.5

            is that right?
            Just refer to CPR 31 - covers a multitude..........

            It can be done, as long as both parties agree to it. :tinysmile_twink_t2:
            Just inform the court (better if it's in writing; send a copy of the Claimant's written agreement to the court along with your own.)
            Last edited by charitynjw; 8th February 2016, 12:37:PM.
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            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
            Cohen, Herb


            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
            gets his brain a-going.
            Phelps, C. C.


            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
            The last words of John Sedgwick

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            • #21
              Re: Restons / cabot

              Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
              Just refer to CPR 31 - covers a multitude..........

              It can be done, as long as both parties agree to it. :tinysmile_twink_t2:
              Just inform the court (better if it's in writing; send a copy of the Claimant's written agreement to the court along with your own.)

              Thank you , once again

              And yes, sent the CCA request to Cabot
              also sent letter asking for extension to their solicitors Restons, which have both gone in the post today!

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              • #22
                Re: Restons / cabot

                Originally posted by manda View Post
                Thank you , once again

                And yes, sent the CCA request to Cabot
                also sent letter asking for extension to their solicitors Restons, which have both gone in the post today!

                Hi -- me (again)

                sent fee to cabot for CCA request - i have nothing back

                sent letter requiring extension as per CPR 15.5. to Restons solicitors

                Ive had nothing back and have only a couple of days to send my defence into the court
                Do i ask for it to be set-aside or thrown out due to non compliance ? what is the terms i ask for to be struck out?

                what do i write?

                Obviously i will send in copies of letters as per above to both Cabot & restons


                Thanks

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                • #23
                  Re: Restons / cabot

                  Help needed again ..

                  reply from restons - saying they have no record of me making a valid section 78 CC request - i did and the court has a copy of it too - i printed a copy of the Postal Order , with a copy of the Proof of posting which i gave to the court in my defence. I also have kept a photocopy for my records

                  They then go on to say they would be gratefull if i could withdraw my defence and send a N9 a and return it to them - i am fully defending my claim so i wont be doin that

                  Then they go on to say ......if they dont recieve this within 14 days they will instruct to make an application to strike out the defence and seek an order and that i pay costs associated with this ?

                  Can you please help me understand this jargon and what they are saying??

                  regards

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                  • #24
                    Help needed please

                    Help needed again ..

                    reply from restons - saying they have no record of me making a valid section 78 CC request - i did and the court has a copy of it too - i printed a copy of the Postal Order , with a copy of the Proof of posting which i gave to the court in my defence. I also have kept a photocopy for my records

                    They then go on to say they would be gratefull if i could withdraw my defence and send a N9 a and return it to them - i am fully defending my claim so i wont be doin that

                    Then they go on to say ......if they dont recieve this within 14 days they will instruct to make an application to strike out the defence and seek an order and that i pay costs associated with this ?

                    Can you please help me understand this jargon and what they are saying??

                    regards

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                    • #25
                      Re: Restons / cabot

                      Originally posted by manda View Post
                      Help needed again ..

                      reply from restons - saying they have no record of me making a valid section 78 CC request - i did and the court has a copy of it too - i printed a copy of the Postal Order , with a copy of the Proof of posting which i gave to the court in my defence. I also have kept a photocopy for my records

                      They then go on to say they would be gratefull if i could withdraw my defence and send a N9 a and return it to them - i am fully defending my claim so i wont be doin that

                      Then they go on to say ......if they dont recieve this within 14 days they will instruct to make an application to strike out the defence and seek an order and that i pay costs associated with this ?

                      Can you please help me understand this jargon and what they are saying??

                      regards
                      Hello Manda.

                      This is becoming a habit with Cabot and Restons.

                      So: For The Personal Attention Of
                      Nigel Petrie Coe
                      Restons Solicitors


                      Date:

                      Re: Restons Ref:

                      CC Claim Noxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


                      Dear Mr Coe,

                      I refer to your letter dated............... In regard to the above mentioned claim No..........................: Please note I have no intention of withdrawing my defence and given the other content of your letter I suggest that Restons advises it's client to discontinue the claim.

                      I advise that a properly constituted Request made under the provisions of section 78 of CCA 1974 was sent to your client on date:........... together with Postal Order No........................ a copy of which is attached here with together with a copy of the proof of posting **** Did you not used signed for post and check delivery?*** Cabot may now deny receipt.****

                      I am aware of a number of similar claims such as this being made when CCA request have been made and I am reporting the matter to the FCA, this will also be brought to the attention of the court.

                      I have also made a Request to Restons via the provisions of Civil Procedure Rule 31.14 for the documents mentioned in the particulars of the claim which of course includes a copy of the agreement.

                      I am sure you are aware the request is valid as it was made prior to the claim being allocated to track.
                      The conduct of Restons and It's client in this matter seem to be made to thwart my attempts to obtain copies of documents your client intends to rely on in court.

                      You are reminded that without a compliant agreement the court may not enforce the alleged debt.

                      Unless I reply including the requested documents is supplied within 7 days of the date hereon I intend to make application for the claim to be struck out and will seek the cost of the application from your client.

                      This needs to go by signed for post check delivery and print off signature.

                      Sorry about the bold type it wont switch off.

                      nem


                      Last edited by nemesis45; 18th March 2016, 19:23:PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Restons / cabot

                        Brilliant - you are an absolute godsend, genius - thank you so much x

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                        • #27
                          Re: Help needed please

                          Is this your only other thread, manda?

                          http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...ighlight=manda
                          CAVEAT LECTOR

                          This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                          You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                          Cohen, Herb


                          There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                          gets his brain a-going.
                          Phelps, C. C.


                          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                          The last words of John Sedgwick

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                          • #28
                            Re: Restons / cabot

                            Thanks for merging the thread [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] :tinysmile_twink_t2:
                            CAVEAT LECTOR

                            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                            Cohen, Herb


                            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                            gets his brain a-going.
                            Phelps, C. C.


                            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                            The last words of John Sedgwick

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                            • #29
                              Re: Help needed please

                              Yes the only other one .... Thanks

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                              • #30
                                Re: Help needed please

                                Originally posted by manda View Post
                                Yes the only other one .... Thanks
                                cannot thank you all enough for all your help and legal expertise


                                I went to ombudsman, made complaint and voila` cabot wrote letter of apology, closed case and gave ME £100 compensation

                                I wouldnt have been able to persevere and do it without all your help

                                When people dont have the knowledge and people like yourselves come in and help and offer advice through your genorosity, it really is truly and utterly so much appreciated.

                                :tinysmile_kiss_t4: THANK YOU SO MUCH

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