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  • Unknown CCJ for service charge, claim form sent to old address

    Received a claim? Yes
    Issue Date: 8th September
    Have you Acknowledged the Claim?: CCJ already passed 14th October, acknowledged with Claimant's solicitor on 15th November
    Total Amount Claimed : £2500
    Claimant’s Name: FirstPort
    Solicitors Firm: PDC Law
    Original Creditor:
    Original Debt (eg. Credit card/Loan/Overdraft) : Service Charge
    Particulars of Claim: See below
    Is the debt Statute Barred (have you had any contact with the creditor or claimant over the last 6 years?): No
    List any letters you have sent (eg: CCA/ CPR ): None
    Any Other Information or Background Details:

    Hi guys - in 2018 I moved to the US and I had a late payment of service charge on a flat that I own in London. They e-mailed me a final notice and I made the payment within 2 hours of the e-mail and asked to be notified of all future payments by e-mail as I did not have access to physical post from being abroad. The same thing happened again in 2019 after which the building manager confirmed they had my e-mail on file. The building manager was acquired by a new manager. In May 2021 I had a service charge payment due, while still being abroad, and they did not e-mail me. All correspondence was by post which I did not have access to. They then appointed debt collectors and basically I've ended up with a CCJ because all communication was sent to an address which I did not have access to the post for and despite me having made two requests to be contacted via e-mail.

    I know I have a duty to stay on top of payments but I wanted to ask a couple of questions

    1. I should be able to get the CCJ Set Aside under CPR 13.3 on the grounds that the Claim Form was not sent to my current address? (I have all the proof including flights and tenancy agreements of my current address that prove I have not lived at the address the post was sent to for the last 3 years).

    2. Do I have a reasonable defence case against paying the legal and court fees that the Claimant is billing me for? My argument is that I had been requested to be notified via e-mail and had they just contacted me that way I would have made the payment within a few hours. Instead, they opted to take legal action against me without me knowing about it.

    I've read online that this is a common scam that building service managers do in partnership with debt collectors to rack up fees and deliberately not contact people via post. Most people don't hire a solicitor to fight the claim because the legal costs usually outweigh the amount to settle the claim, but I just hate to see them get away with something like this so will be fighting it myself. I've filled out the N244, created a Draft Order, Witness Statement and Draft Defence all of which I intend on sending to the Court (I did request that the Claimant/Solicitor agree to consent to the Judgement to be Set Aside but they have not responded for over a week).

    If anyone else has any advice for me it would be greatly appreciated. It's become a very stressful situation, at the original fault of myself but I feel these people have really exploited me here.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by opera14; 28th November 2021, 00:02:AM.
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  • #2
    If anyone does have time to read my draft Witness Statement and Defence that would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately the CCJ was passed on 14th October and I only found out about it on Saturday 13th November. I've sine been in contact with the claimant's solicitor but I know they are stalling and I haven't heard back from them wrt getting a consent to set aside the judgement, so I think I need to send all the relevant details to the court asap.

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    • #3
      yes....Do it today online

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      • #4
        Thank you. Am I able to submit it online? I couldn't find an e-mail address to send everything to; I actually couldn't find clear instructions anywhere on how to submit?

        Thanks!

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        • #5
          On second thoughts, I'm not sure. If you download form N244 and fill it in...there plenty of guidance on that to be found..and take to your local County Court with the fee. The claimant dosn't have to respond to you, so don't wait around. The fee is probably £255.

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          • #6

            Application fees
            Apply for a default costs certificate £71
            Apply to set aside a default costs certificate £130
            General application (N244) – by consent or without notice £108
            General application (N244) – application on notice £275

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            • #7
              Thanks for your help. I called the Court today and the e-mail to send it to is ccmcce-filing@justice.gov.uk in case it helps anyone else. They said it could take up to 14 days to respond. To make the payment, they'll call you on your phone number and take payment via credit/debit card. It's £275.

              I waited over a week for the Claimant to consent to have the Judgement Set Aside and they didn't even respond. I wish I had sent everything earlier but perhaps I needed to give the Claimant a reasonable amount of time to assess all the evidence?

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              • #8
                Excellent

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                • #9
                  Hi guys,

                  Just followed up with the court today as it's been 9 days since I sent form N244 and they are telling me it will take 28-30 working days to process from receipt. It's a very long time and it's making me a bit anxious given I'm going to have this CCJ outstanding for a while now.

                  I'm guessing there's nothing I can do to speed up the process? Even if I got the Claimant to consent to have the judgement set aside, would it take the same processing time?

                  Also is there anything else I need to do; I already contacted and emailed the solicitor to request to pay the original amount that was owed but they said it's not possible. Just want to make sure I don't rack up more fees while I'm waiting but is there anything else I should be thinking of to cover myself here?

                  Thanks so much.

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                  • #10
                    Hi guys - good news the Claimant has agreed to set aside the CCJ and waive the legal fees they are billing me.

                    However they are still asking me to pay court fees of £115, filing costs of £108 and on top of that I had billed them £275 for form N244 which I had to send myself as they were unresponsive.

                    Do they have any reasonable grounds to ask me to pay these amounts? I don't understand why they are still asking me to do so. At this stage I feel if this case went to court I have enough evidence to win the case and it would obviously cost them more legal fees.

                    Thanks.

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                    • #11
                      ask what they want, but if set aside granted case starts over again. so as it is stays for now, you have to hope for set aside, and
                      then follow procedure as per directions of the court.

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                      • #12
                        When negotiating a consent order, you don't have to agree to what they're offering to settle for. You can continue with your application and attend a hearing. If you're successful (and it sounds like you will be), the court will probably order them to pay your court fee.

                        However, you should balance that against the downside of not agreeing - ie it will take longer to get the CCJ removed and there's always a risk of being unsuccessful at the hearing. If the claimant has legal representation, there's also the risk that you may be ordered to pay their legal costs if you lose.

                        Since qualifying as a solicitor over 20 years ago, I have specialised in advising clients on navigating the court system.
                        I have helped hundreds of people remove CCJ's from their credit file. I have learnt the relevant rules, the strategies for optimising the prospects of success and the pitfalls to avoid. I'm currently writing a book "How to Remove a CCJ"

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