Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

[CleverClogs]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

If the security goon had referred to you by your ethnic origin, the best way to respond is to refuse to speak English other than to demand diplomatic access. Even then, it should be short, curt and clear: "Pakistani ambassador, here, now!"

Other than that, respond to everything else in one's native tongue or in a made-up language, as the purpose of this exercise is to use their own racism against them.

[depressed2011]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

hello All

I am back again. Got the second letter from RLP. haven't opened it yet as I know what it would be like.
I am not paying them just wanted to ask a suggestion, I live in a rented flat and I m tempted to send the letter back to the sender, atleast that would stop them from sending a letter to me ( i hope so) the face of teh letter says 'if undelivered please return to bla di bla di bla''

I just don't want to read their name any more on any correspondence. Please suggest

[CleverClogs]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Just file it away.

[teaboy2]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Sending it back to the sender would only go against you if it ever went to court. Just put it in the bin but please read it first, just incase it contains anything that can be used against them such as stating "Will take you to court" instead off "May take you to court".

[charitynjw]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Sending it back to the sender would only go against you if it ever went to court. Just put it in the bin but please read it first, just incase it contains anything that can be used against them such as stating "Will take you to court" instead off "May take you to court".

Hi Teaboy

May I ask you, how (in legal terms) would you use that against someone?
I ask because a friend had a similar communication (though not RLP).
Only one letter so far, but definitely states 'will'.

Apologies for hijacking the thread, btw!

[teaboy2]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Hi Teaboy

May I ask you, how (in legal terms) would you use that against someone?
I ask because a friend had a similar communication (though not RLP).
Only one letter so far, but definitely states 'will'.

Apologies for hijacking the thread, btw!

well if they say "Will" then 6 months later (as an example) to have still not taken you to court would likely be frown upon by the judge. Not only that, but it would be deemed misleading and would be a breach of OFT guidelines, not to mention being undue pressure on the debtor, when stating they will take an action that they have no intention of carrying out.

So effectively it can be used to make them look bad and as evidence in a complaint to the OFT or a complaint over their harassment if they have been harassing the debtor or alleged criminal. It would also be extra useful in cases of prospective invoicing like in this case, especially when you consider the thrashing ACAS Law were given for issuing similar invoices demanding payment when a persons guilt had not be established, or they had not been convicted as guilty by a court etc.

[depressed2011]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

hello all
hope all are doing ok

i have received teh third letter from rlp that says thsi is there last attempt t resort teh issue, they wud refer to their client and update that i have not responded to any letter regarding teh matter. also i stil have an option to negotiate teh issue by calling bla bla bla number,

what m i doing next, suggestions please.

thanks

[ODC]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Ignore them. They will crawl back under their stone

[CleverClogs]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Ignore them.

Rather than refer them to Arkell v. Pressdram? (link)

They will crawl back under their stone

Worms cannot crawl. Did you mean slither?

[ODC]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Arkell v Lord Gnome would be wasted on these shysters. I don't see any point in getting involved in pointless letter tennis with this wunch of bankers

[bluebottle]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

Throwing Section 2, Protection from Harassment Act 1997 at them and their client might have the effect of deterring them from further correspondence, as the onus would be on them and their client to produce evidence to prove they were acting lawfully. RLP are well-known for non-compliance with CPRs and fishing for any evidence a victim could use against them and their client. What do other LBs think?

[Jonty45]

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Hi Depressed

Welcome to Legal Beagles :beagle:

No one here will judge you for your actions, it is clear you are punishing yourself far more than any court ever would.

This is now not a criminal issue as far as I can tell from your post. The police seem to have taken no formal action against you.

The issue between RLP and you now is a Civil matter, meaning they would have to take you to County Court to sue you for payment. This costs them money. So they like to harass and intimidate through letters...........


Please read around in the RLP forum, you will get the picture.

Make sure you read this thread:

What should you do if you are contacted by a civil recovery firm ? - Legal Beagles Consumer Forum

and

Legal Beagles Consumer Forum


Also:

BBC News - High Street shops take justice into their own hands

Civil recovery schemes: for or against? | Law | guardian.co.uk

Very strange that Citizens Advice Bureau advised you to pay..........*sigh*

I am a CAB volunteer, ex Trade Union FTO. I too find it strange, my experience of the CAB is that the advice offered is from Advicenet, our main reference source. Consequently any advice offered will be referenced there.

I am very sympathetic to the plight of vulnerable members of Society but I am always wary of uncorroborated allegations!

Jonty:beagle:

[bluebottle]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

I am a CAB volunteer, ex Trade Union FTO. I too find it strange, my experience of the CAB is that the advice offered is from Advicenet, our main reference source. Consequently any advice offered will be referenced there.

I am very sympathetic to the plight of vulnerable members of Society but I am always wary of uncorroborated allegations!

Jonty:beagle:

Me too, Jonty!

[Guest]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

HI

I think it sholuld be clarified, whatever the OP does regarding the claim from RLP it will not influence any record that is kept by the CRB.

This will remain, in whatever form, whatever the action he decies to take regarding the civil action.

Peter

[bluebottle]

Re: Dreaded by the letter from retail loss prevention (RLP) HELP

HI

I think it sholuld be clarified, whatever the OP does regarding the claim from RLP it will not influence any record that is kept by the CRB.

This will remain, in whatever form, whatever the action he decies to take regarding the civil action.

Peter

Peter,

You appear to be confusing CRB (Criminal Records Bureau), which is a screening body, with CRO (Criminal Records Office), which is where ALL criminal records are kept. CRB has access to CRO for screening purposes, but does not actually hold any criminal records. That is what CRO does. CRB is in Northern England. CRO is at New Scotland Yard, in London's Victoria district.

Most offences under English Law are subject to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act which means that, after pre-determined periods of time, convictions are struck from the records as they are regarded as "Spent". This means, with a few exceptions, the slate is wiped clean and the person to whom they relate cannot be compelled to disclose them and the offences cannot be disclosed or held against them.

BB