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  • #16
    Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

    Time we ended with them. We are in the 21st century for pete's sake! Also, do remember that Charlie can (and does) comment on the bills that affect his financial position (Duchy of Lancaster I believe), which he can veto. And remember a fantastic ruse of land enclosures coupled with the Royal Prerogative and we are staffed like a kipper.

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    • #17
      Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

      I disagree with Alhams post, perhaps when I was younger i thought that way, but over my life I have become to realize what an integral part of our national identity the royal family represent.
      I don't think we would feel the same without the monarchy, lets face it, the queen is just about the only national figure we have produced in the last 60 years who has not been proven to have feet of clay(except possibly Fergie). She has not put a foot wrong, and I for one will miss her when she goes.

      Financially it must be remembered that she has much more money than that which is just supplied by the exchequer, she has income generated by land spreading over half the country , wales and Scotland, the Prince for instance derives his income from estates in Cornwall.

      Also i find it reassuring that the high and mighty are summoned to respectfully present themselves to the queen on a regular basis. That the Queen has to rubber stamp all legislation. Also the glimpses into a world of restraint style and duty,(and yes luxury) which is in such contrast to the YouTube Facebook glaring 21st century that the rest of us inhabit..
      Last edited by gravytrain; 9th May 2013, 06:41:AM.

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      • #18
        Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

        Yes - they are value for money.

        "Keep the buildings, not the family" was cited earlier. Take the most recent event, William and Kate's wedding. The revenue generated exceeded the cost many times over. There are examples like this time and time again. Empty buildings are not the same without the people.

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        • #19
          Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

          Do you not think that our Royal Family should now adopt the low key style of the remaining European Royal families

          They still receive the respect they rightly deserve, but are more in tune with the 21st century way of thinking
          Last edited by FORCEOFONE; 9th May 2013, 00:22:AM.

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          • #20
            Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

            Contrary to my previous post I agree that madge is great "independent" head of state, imagine having to elect a president, arch-furher or such like to be an alternative head of state? This is one of the dilemmas I am struggling with, but in principal I am all for getting rid of the whole lot of them.

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            • #21
              Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

              Heaven forbid having a president liar Blair for example

              I would sooner have a monarchy than be faced with that prospect

              Mind you, the yanks got away with it with both bush senior, and mini me bush the younger

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              • #22
                Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                Originally posted by FORCEOFONE View Post
                Do you not think that our Royal Family should now adopt the low key style of the remaining European Royal families

                They still receive the respect they rightly deserve, but are more in tune with the 21st century way of thinking
                What exactly do you mean by, 'more in tune with the C20th?'

                HM and His Gobbiness pay far more in tax than they receive from the tax payer, a move that was entirely voluntary on their part if you remember. She continues to do a sterling job and maintain a fair number of public engagements despite being 87 years old, generating vast amounts of income both home and abroad. She plays a more significant role in foreign affairs than many think.

                In what way would you like them more 'in tune with the C20th?'

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                • #23
                  Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                  Everybody is saying the revenue she brings into the united kingdom is far in excess of natural tourism without a Royal Family

                  All i am asking for are official figures, audited accounts

                  Not what is being reported in the national media by the perpetrators own agenda,

                  Be it for or against a monarchy

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                  • #24
                    Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                    Originally posted by FORCEOFONE View Post
                    Everybody is saying the revenue she brings into the united kingdom is far in excess of natural tourism without a Royal Family

                    All i am asking for are official figures, audited accounts

                    Not what is being reported in the national media by the perpetrators own agenda,

                    Be it for or against a monarchy
                    That's a VERY big 'ALL I'm asking for.....' - You might as well ask her to pop round for tea tonight with you for all the chance you have of that happening.

                    It is fair to say that reasonable estimates can be calculated from certain events like Will and Kate's wedding. Thus, I think reasonable estimates can probably be made about other things.

                    You may choose to believe or disbelieve figures in the paper. I lean towards agreeing with them (and I rarely say that about newspapers).

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                    • #25
                      Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                      American tourists (including Canadians, sorry but it does include them) are very keen on most things royal, other nationalities not so much, at least not most Europeans. There are over 300 million Americans, you can't discount them.

                      Personally I'm not overly keen on royalty but I can see the point of having them. The new generation of royals may well change things a little to be closer to other European nations in terms of day to day living whilst keeping the "pomp" and special events that tourists enjoy.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                        Originally posted by gravytrain View Post
                        I disagree with Alhams post, perhaps when I was younger i thought that way, but over my life I have become to realize what an integral part of our national identity the royal family represent.
                        I don't think we would feel the same without the monarchy, lets face it, the queen is just about the only national figure we have produced in the last 60 years who has not been proven to have feet of clay(except possibly Fergie). She has not put a foot wrong, and I for one will miss her when she goes.

                        Financially it must be remembered that she has much more money than that which is just supplied by the exchequer, she has income generated by land spreading over half the country , wales and Scotland, the Prince for instance derives his income from estates in Cornwall.

                        Also i find it reassuring that the high and mighty are summoned to respectfully present themselves to the queen on a regular basis. That the Queen has to rubber stamp all legislation. Also the glimpses into a world of restraint style and duty,(and yes luxury) which is in such contrast to the YouTube Facebook glaring 21st century that the rest of us inhabit..
                        My thoughts entirely ^ (except for the Fergie bit because I don't know who that means).

                        The Queen came to the throne as a young woman grieving for her father. Her sense of duty, honour and service to her people all over the world has been unswerving for 60 years. How many people, let alone heads of state, have that kind of integrity?

                        Compare and contrast with the EU thread.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                          Originally posted by MissFM View Post
                          My thoughts entirely ^ (except for the Fergie bit because I don't know who that means).

                          .
                          These only one Alex Ferguson.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Are the Royal Family value for money

                            Originally posted by gravytrain View Post
                            These only one Alex Ferguson.
                            :behindsofa: Thank goodness for that!

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                            • #29
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                              I'm told HM is a great ******** fan, though it takes it out of dear old Phil when the Corgis run off with the ball!

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                              • #30
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                                Erm...........?

                                Why a swear filter for f o o t b a l l?

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