Mooring charges

[waterworks]

Signs have appeared on some canal moorings owned by the Canal and River Trust stating "2 days free of charge" yet there are no details of any terms and conditions either on these sites or in any C&RT document, they are not permitted by law to issue fines and have no powers to recover these mooring fees except in civil court, for instance adding them to a boat licence fee or refusing a boat lincece until any such charge is paid, are there any legal rules to cover such charges and how can it be discerned whether this is a fee for services or a unlawful fine ?

[islandgirl]

As someone who moors at CRT moorings these restrictions are common and are apparently enforced. I have read in forums of people getting notices if they overstay for example and presumably they have the power to enforce them - have you read the information on the CRT website (had a look and there is quite a bit!). I know there have been "evictions" from long term unauthorised moorings also.

[dslippy]

The CRT owns the land and are not obliged to lease or licence it. They therefore do so on whatever basisi they see as appropriate.

[waterworks]

As someone who moors at CRT moorings these restrictions are common and are apparently enforced. I have read in forums of people getting notices if they overstay for example and presumably they have the power to enforce them - have you read the information on the CRT website (had a look and there is quite a bit!). I know there have been "evictions" from long term unauthorised moorings also.

To be claer i am talking abour vistitor moorings on the towpath.

They have no powers to enforce them except via a civil court..

[islandgirl]

Yes I know. The idea is that moorings are not filled with people staying weeks and weeks preventing leisure boaters from enjoying one or two nights somewhere. Do you have a problem with this?

[waterworks]

Yes I know. The idea is that moorings are not filled with people staying weeks and weeks preventing leisure boaters from enjoying one or two nights somewhere. Do you have a problem with this?

No , I said how can it be enforced lawfully, if it can't then it won't stop anyone will it ?

[islandgirl]

It seems to do! I have read on forums about people getting overstay notices but am unsure how it is followed up. There must be a way to enforce. Have you asked the CRT?
I found this which seems to say that the CRT licence can be withdrawn:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news-...aterways-safer
and they have the power to remove unlicenced boats from the waterway
canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/licence-your-boat/boat-licence-customer-support-team/how-we-tackle-evasion

[waterworks]

It seems to do! I have read on forums about people getting overstay notices but am unsure how it is followed up. There must be a way to enforce. Have you asked the CRT?
I found this which seems to say that the CRT licence can be withdrawn:
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news-...aterways-safer
and they have the power to remove unlicenced boats from the waterway
canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/boating/licence-your-boat/boat-licence-customer-support-team/how-we-tackle-evasion

They cannot revoke a licence for non payment of mooring fees or charges or anything else, the licence is statutory and issued by conditions set out in the 1995 BW actand can obl6 be revoked under those same conditions.

[islandgirl]

So how do they have the power to remove boats? They say they have this power - if the grant the licence then they must be able to un-grant it so to speak.

[waterworks]

So how do they have the power to remove boats? They say they have this power - if the grant the licence then they must be able to un-grant it so to speak.

They have no say in granting or revoking licences its statutory , they just follow the law.

[islandgirl]

Well presumably the CRT uphold statute in the same way the Police uphold the law and thus have a right to revoke licences. I am unsure of the question here - do you have a problem with the CRT? Do you object to the idea of mooring time limits? Are you a residential boater who has been "evicted"?

[dslippy]

I agre that I cannot see the OP's beef.