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    we bought a dog from a private individual, we have no solid proof of sale (receipts etc) but have a few texts confirming date of sale and an agreed price. We are paying in instalments to his daughter via bank transfer, we have all the paperwork for the dog (chip ID, vaccination reports etc) we owe £80 but the vaccinations were missed by the previous owner (overdue by 3 months before the sale), this has resulted in us having to pay a total of £100 as the vaccines were overdue and had to be started again rather than just done next year, we feel that the vaccines should have been up to date when we purchased the dog and as a result, we wish to withhold the last £80 payment to compensate for the extra cost of the vaccines as if they were up to date, we wouldn't have to pay until next year and the cost would only be £40.

    I just want to know where we stand.
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    Hello all

    I would like some advice on the below situation, I did post this in a sub forum but then read about posting here so it goes in the right place:

    We bought a dog from a private individual, neither we or he have any solid proof of sale (receipts etc) but have a few texts confirming date of sale and an agreed price. We are paying in instalments to his daughter via bank transfer, we have all the paperwork for the dog (chip ID, vaccination reports etc) we owe £80 but the vaccinations were missed by the previous owner (overdue by 3 months before the sale), this has resulted in us having to pay a total of £100 as the vaccines were overdue and had to be started again rather than just done next year, we feel that the vaccines should have been up to date when we purchased the dog and as a result, we wish to withhold the last £80 payment to compensate for the extra cost of the vaccines as if they were up to date, we wouldn't have to pay until next year and the cost would only be £40.

    I just want to know where we stand.

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    • #3
      Unless you were assured by the sellers prior to the purchase that the dog's vaccinations were up to date, I doubt you have any cause for complaint.

      And of course you do not have to have the dog vaccinated, that is a personal choice, so you were under no compulsion to pay out £100.
      (and before you say anything I am pleased you made that choice)

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      • #4
        Did you specify that vaccinations needed to be up to date before buying? Was this stated in the advert? Did you ask a specific question about this? If not, I think you bought as seen, and you owe the money. In any case, your maximum deduction would be the extra cost, which is £60, not £80.

        Is it a great dog? Hopefully so, then enjoy the experience without getting into an argument where you are probably in the wrong. What you might do is contact the sellers and ask them if they would pay the extra cost voluntarily or, say, split it with you.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bowden123 View Post
          Hello all

          I would like some advice on the below situation, I did post this in a sub forum but then read about posting here so it goes in the right place:

          We bought a dog from a private individual, neither we or he have any solid proof of sale (receipts etc) but have a few texts confirming date of sale and an agreed price. We are paying in instalments to his daughter via bank transfer, we have all the paperwork for the dog (chip ID, vaccination reports etc) we owe £80 but the vaccinations were missed by the previous owner (overdue by 3 months before the sale), this has resulted in us having to pay a total of £100 as the vaccines were overdue and had to be started again rather than just done next year, we feel that the vaccines should have been up to date when we purchased the dog and as a result, we wish to withhold the last £80 payment to compensate for the extra cost of the vaccines as if they were up to date, we wouldn't have to pay until next year and the cost would only be £40.

          I just want to know where we stand.
          How did you and the seller come to know each other?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post

            How did you and the seller come to know each other?
            he is the father of a friend, we have had little to no direct contact, only meeting him face to face to collect the dog. My friend told us about the dog originally.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bowden123 View Post

              he is the father of a friend, we have had little to no direct contact, only meeting him face to face to collect the dog. My friend told us about the dog originally.
              Okay, so there was no actual advertisement in which he stated the dog had been vaccinated up to date?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post

                Okay, so there was no actual advertisement in which he stated the dog had been vaccinated up to date?
                That's correct, possibly him saying it but I can't remember, not that it matters anyway as it would be our word against his.

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                • #9
                  I should also mention that there MAY be a few text confirming the sale, if I say there are no such texts, would this affect the outcome?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bowden123 View Post

                    That's correct, possibly him saying it but I can't remember, not that it matters anyway as it would be our word against his.
                    Well if he were to pursue the matter to court then it would be and up to the judge on the balance of probabilities whom they believed.

                    Originally posted by bowden123 View Post
                    I should also mention that there MAY be a few text confirming the sale, if I say there are no such texts, would this affect the outcome?
                    And if those texts showed the owner at time of sale did not specifically state that the vaccinations were fully up to date then the dog was "sold as seen." Although one might reasonably expect them to be up to date. R0b what do you think?
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                    • #11
                      Unless there is a legal requirement for dogs or equivalent animals to have up to date vaccinations, and unless you have specific proof that he said they were up to date, it sounds like a case of he said she said and for the cost involved, it's probably not worth pursuing as the onus is on you (as a claimant) to prove that what was said was true.

                      I would chalk this one up to experience and next time, make sure you ask all the questions and have it in writing before parting with your cash regardless of whether its a friend or stranger - never make assumptions.
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                      • #12
                        HI
                        Double posting is not helpful
                        Kati could you please merge these threads: http://legalbeagles.info/forums/foru...n-dog-purchase

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by des8 View Post
                          HI
                          Double posting is not helpful
                          Kati could you please merge these threads: http://legalbeagles.info/forums/foru...n-dog-purchase
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bowden123 View Post
                            we bought a dog from a private individual, we have no solid proof of sale (receipts etc) but have a few texts confirming date of sale and an agreed price. We are paying in instalments to his daughter via bank transfer, we have all the paperwork for the dog (chip ID, vaccination reports etc) we owe £80 but the vaccinations were missed by the previous owner (overdue by 3 months before the sale), this has resulted in us having to pay a total of £100 as the vaccines were overdue and had to be started again rather than just done next year, we feel that the vaccines should have been up to date when we purchased the dog and as a result, we wish to withhold the last £80 payment to compensate for the extra cost of the vaccines as if they were up to date, we wouldn't have to pay until next year and the cost would only be £40.

                            I just want to know where we stand.
                            Take it back and get a dog with vaccination papers or a rescue dog from the RSPCA, they're always vaccinated and sterilised too!

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