Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

[wales01man]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

When my wife had her assessment many of the questions were related to her mobility and how far she could walk yes she is disabled in that sense the OP may be in another when they have the assessment they will answer questions relating to all aspects of their life if they are genuine no problem

[charitynjw]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

I've seen cases where they demand that the person attend an assessment centre miles from home (15 miles in one case), then they suggest that, as the person has been able to attend, there's nothing wrong with them.
I reckon they have based their manual on 'Catch 22'!

[labman]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

Roll on the introduction of the new company. Anyone know when they start working as well as ATOS?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

Anyone know when they start working as well as ATOS?

From day one, if they subscribe to the same addled "standards" as ATOS <spit>.

Do you recall that covertly filmed "training course"?

"If they have only one finger working and can press one button, they'll score nothing for [loss of] manual dexterity!".

Needless to say, the official guide says otherwise - for example, it mentions the ability to pick up coins, which that heartless Eastern European yachneh never even considered.

[labman]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

it mentions the ability to pick up coins

.... though not necessarily with your hands. Toes, teeth, or any other contortion means you are fully able bodied.

[charitynjw]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...y-atos-2194951

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[CleverClogs]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

.... though not necessarily with your hands. Toes, teeth, or any other contortion means you are fully able bodied.

Perhaps the new company will claim that some "customers" are blessed with a prehensile penis?

[wales01man]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

Somewhat straying a bit this thread,whilst I like many others deplore the way some say the assessments are carried out they are definetly needed,when we went to the centre there were while we were there 5 others in there one in a wheelchair,one walking unaided but with obvious problems my wife on 2 sticks with a file of medical info and 3 young men under 30 walking with no problem and no obvious disabilities this is what I saw ,I know my wifes problems but could only guess if the others were genuine, this is why these assessments are needed so those who attend can produce evidence and answer questions to determine if they are what they say they are

[labman]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

this is why these assessments are needed so those who attend can produce evidence and answer questions to determine if they are what they say they are

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. The problem is that it appears they can produce plenty of evidence and answer the questions, but still be deemed fit for work when they are not.

To my mind, it would be fairer if ATOS were paid a flat fee for the contract, rather than receive more money for assessing people as fit for work. Do they not have a conflict of interest?

[labman]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

Somewhat straying a bit this thread,whilst I like many others deplore the way some say the assessments are carried out they are definetly needed,when we went to the centre there were while we were there 5 others in there one in a wheelchair,one walking unaided but with obvious problems my wife on 2 sticks with a file of medical info and 3 young men under 30 walking with no problem and no obvious disabilities this is what I saw ,I know my wifes problems but could only guess if the others were genuine, this is why these assessments are needed so those who attend can produce evidence and answer questions to determine if they are what they say they are

One should also say, of course, someone in a wheelchair, and someone on sticks may equally be swinging the lead. There's plenty of them around, as well as those who 'appear' to have no obvious disability.

[CleverClogs]

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3 young men under 30 walking with no problem and no obvious disabilities

Of those three, one may suffer from epilepsy, another may have PTSD and flash-backs to when he was shot in Afghanistan, whilst the third might be afflicted with bipolar disorder which was hitherto called a manic-depressive state.

None of those is commonly known to interfere significantly with walking, yet each can present problems with working.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...y-atos-2194951

Dr Wood wanted to conduct actual medicals “not ask people whether they owned a cat”.

Alarm bells first sounded at a WCA training session he attended in June 2011.

He says loose interpretations of official guidelines were being offered by trainers, “such as ‘if they can walk from room to room, they can walk 200 metres, which equals no points’.”

When Dr Wood pointed out that walking from room to room was not at all the same as walking 200 metres, he says his objection was dismissed.

That's why I believe that IDS deserves an Atomic Wedgie:

[CleverClogs]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

http://wowpetition.com/

[bluebottle]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

http://wowpetition.com/

Signed.

[wales01man]

Re: Forthcoming ATOS assessment.

If any of the young men had any of these problems or went to any warzone I would be surprised I said a could only guess if any of the others were genuine looks can deceive that's why these assessments are needed I would agree they are probably going about it the wrong way if any one can fool a health professional and several surgeons scans and other tests they deserve to get away with pulling a fast one