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DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

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  • #61
    Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

    Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
    I expect that they might get something of a clue when water issued from the "barrel" rather than a bullet.
    Knowing the way these people act, do you really believe they wouldn't play it for all it was worth? I can just imagine the scene; "Honestly officer, I thought he was about to shoot me!! How was I to know the gun wasn't real?" An "accidental" soaking with a hose pipe you might get away with. This all depnds of course on whether anyone actually turns up, chances are it's another empty threat.

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    • #62
      Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

      Originally posted by alsagerman View Post
      You are absolutely correct re: reasonble force. However how, exactly, do you think skirting a water pistol at them would contstitute reasonble force? I understand the temptation (wish it was legal to pour boiling oil on them) but think before you act. How will it benifit your cause to get yourself arrested? Well considering water is harmless whilst attempting to restraint someone can and have in some cases lead to serious muscle injury to the person, then i think squirting them with water is the lesser of the two forms of reasonable force, not only that it is commonly used in riots even in the UK and known as a water cannon

      Additionally, if you point a "weapon" at someone, how is that person to know, or claim they know, it's not a real gun. Is it really worth the hassle that might come your way?
      As for the term "weapon" well considering the vast majority of water guns are bright red/orange/yellow and have a container on the top/bottom of them where the water is stored, then it is pretty easy to distinguish between them and an actaul gun and lets face it, only an idiot would actually pull a real gun on a trespasser. Though you can use a gun (game keepers, farmers for example) to evict them from your land, so long as you do not actually fire with intent to harm them. Also new laws that are looking like they will soon be enforce actually allow for you to use certain weapons by force to protect your property - And before you respond with yes for burglars, i will point out that they are also trespassers.
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      • #63
        Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

        Originally posted by alsagerman View Post
        Knowing the way these people act, do you really believe they wouldn't play it for all it was worth? I can just imagine the scene; "Honestly officer, I thought he was about to shoot me!! How was I to know the gun wasn't real?"
        Were the plods to send an armed response unit, one should meekly comply with their demands and, upon them finding no weapon present, the doorstepping dimwit would be charged with wasting police time.

        Perhaps it would be better to use a well rinsed bottle that formerly held washing-up liquid?

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        • #64
          Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

          Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
          Were the plods to send an armed response unit, one should meekly comply with their demands and, upon them finding no weapon present, the doorstepping dimwit would be charged with wasting police time.

          Perhaps it would be better to use a well rinsed bottle that formerly held washing-up liquid?

          People, we're all on the same side here, I hope. Lets not argue between ourselves and loose sight of the real enemy. I only suggest it's in no ones best interest to go beyond the law. Keep the moral high ground and don't let the buggars drag you down to their level.

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          • #65
            Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

            I can just hear the recording of the 999 call from the Doorstep collector now.

            Operator.. Hello - What is the nature of the emergency?

            DC.. I just be shot!

            Operator.. Where are you now.. we will send an ambulance and a responce unit to you.

            DC.. Debtors address.

            Operator.. Ok, can you tell me where you have been shot?

            DC.. In the groin.

            Operator.. Ok the ambulance is on its way now along with the response unit.

            DC.. Errrr ok.

            Operator.. Do you know what kind of weapon was used.

            DC.. Yeah.. A water pistol, i look like i bloody ****ed myself.

            Operator.. A whatttt??????

            DC.. A water Pistol.


            MR plod arrives and then nicks the DC for wasting police time.
            Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

            By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

            If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

            I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

            The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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            • #66
              Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

              Hahahaha
              Last edited by cherrycoke; 26th September 2011, 22:37:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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              • #67
                Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                McKenzie Hall has sold the debt to another company called Motormile Finance. They sent me another email warning me about home visit. Shall I ignore?


                HOME VISIT NOTICE

                Our refxxx
                Re: Quick Quid payday loan (assigned to MMF)
                Debt value: £xxxx

                We have not heard from in reply to our previous communications.

                The Virtual Collector will remain available until the end of September, after which time this account will be passed to our Home Visit Division.

                The Virtual Collector can be visited at www.paymmile.co.uk and your unique access code is xxx.

                If you prefer to speak to one of our operatives, then please call 0844 7709583 (low cost tariff for both landlines and mobiles) and they will be happy to go through the matter with you to find a realistic solution to the matter. You can also send us a message through our website at www.mmile.com.

                We do put you on notice, however, that if we do not hear from you by FRIDAY 30th AUGUST 2011, then your account will be transferred to our Home Visit Division who will then commence their collections process which will involve a home visit to your personal property to resolve the matter with you face to face.

                THIS IS FORMAL NOTICE THAT WE WILL VISIT YOU AT YOUR PLACE OF RESIDENCE IF YOU DO NOT CONTACT US TO DISCUSS YOUR ACCOUNT.

                Yours faithfully


                [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Pre-Visit Collections Dept.[/font]
                [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Motormile Finance UK Ltd[/font]
                [FONT='Arial','sans-serif'][/font]
                [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Main: 0844 7709583[/font]
                [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Email: QQ@mmile.com[/font]
                [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Web: [/font][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']www.mmile.com[/font]
                ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                By the way, the amount they claim is incorrect and funnily enough they claim i have time to respond on 30th August , but they sent the email today - 28th September!
                Last edited by Noushki; 28th September 2011, 16:14:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                • #68
                  Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                  I note that MotorMile seems to be using a trading name not specifically mentioned in their Consumer Credit Licence, no. 0628173, which also seems to be curiously absent from their website.

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                  • #69
                    Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                    check out the md on the insolvency register
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                    • #70
                      Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                      Originally posted by messimoo View Post
                      check out the md on the insolvency register
                      Link, please.

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                      • #71
                        Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                        http://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/eiir/

                        go all courtsand all areas he come up
                        Last edited by messimoo; 28th September 2011, 23:02:PM. Reason: extras
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                        • #72
                          Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                          Originally posted by messimoo View Post
                          http://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/eiir/

                          go all courtsand all areas he come up
                          How very curious!

                          Could this (link) be someone else of the same name?

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                          • #73
                            Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                            nope def him

                            http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...ile-finance-uk
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                            • #74
                              Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                              Originally posted by messimoo View Post
                              How interesting.

                              Do you know anything at all about Shelley McIntyre Ltd. which, although a "dormant" company, seems to have a legal charge against Motormile Finance UK Limited?

                              Its list of directors is also curious ---> link

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                              • #75
                                Re: DOORSTEP VISIT THREAT - MacKenzie Hall threat letter

                                we found diddly squat about this shelly mcinyre ltd at all what gets me is how can you get a legal charge on yourself ????? I did queary this with TS and they seems to think its all above board Myself I am not convinced I just have a feeling that if anyone pays them that the money isnt towards the debt they owe but to his own personal debt to clear
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