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  • Help with Lowell greatly appreciated :)

    Hi everyone - I'm new, officially speaking, but have been browsing the forums for a couple of weeks while trying to sort out some nonsense from Lowell (whom I now know to be reknowned!).

    I'll try to keep this as brief as I can, but it's quite the saga, so hopefully you can bear with me.

    Back in the day, I was a bit of a silly girl and ran up some very stupid debts. It was a combination of sheer recklessness and persistently difficult circumstances which led to desperation; I became a single parent, survived a domestically abusive relationship, discovered that one of my children has an extremely rare life limiting disease...you get the picture; I'm not here for the sympathy vote whatsoever!

    Anyway, over the last little while, I've been quite literally trawling through my finances and going through the motions of trying to repair my shocking credit history. What did not help said history was the fact that Lowell Financial came along some years ago and I've been connected to them ever since. I put up with several years of nonsensical to-ing and fro-ing which, sadly, involved me making regular payments for a while before stopping, and then starting again, and then stopping. That kind of thing. I found them extremely difficult to deal with, not to mention dishonest and misleading, hence the recurrent tendency to leave them stewing before picking up the mantle again.

    As it stands, I have successfully cleared a substantial amount of my old debts, with some remaining. I would really like to get these sorted out as it is my hope - in the future - to purchase a home with my partner, more so than anything else simply because my daughter's needs are so complex that it is nigh on impossible for me to meet her needs without buying at some point.

    So, here is where I am right now. This is where it gets a little complicated, perhaps. I've recovered my credit file sufficiently enough to have obtained a Capital One credit card last year, which I have been using to repair my credit (extremely responsibly I might add, it is working wonderfully). I also successfully completed a year with a Cashplus card and got lots of lovely little green ticks for that; it has now closed with a nil balance. Lovely. So, on that front, I am making good strides.

    The problem all comes to down to an array of accounts held by Lowell, ALL of which are listed as defaults on my credit file, except for one. I'll list them:

    Vanquis credit card - £218.79 - this one is standard, nothing unusual to report with it; it is one single entry under Lowell's name listed as a default, which is correct.

    Provident loans - £919.00 - this consists of 2 loans, both of which are marked as fully settled/not defaulted by the original lender but defaulted under Lowell's entry.

    Vodafone - £1471.00 - now, this one is currently in dispute due to the sheer amount; it's from a contract I cancelled literally 6 weeks before it was due to end and I have no idea how on earth they got that sum. It is one single entry on my credit file under Lowell, listed as a default.

    JD Williams - £80.15 - again, one single entry by Lowell, defaulted; the actual balance is now £50 and I was thinking of just clearing this.

    O2 - £612.00 - this one is a little different. There are two entries, one default by o2 (still active, last reported on days ago) for £897 and then another default from Lowell for the same debt, only it shows the current balance of £612 (it originally defaulted at £897). Experian informed me today that they would query O2 about the default entry as they shouldn't still be reporting on it due to the fact it sold to Lowell a couple of years ago.

    HSBC - £1376.00 - this one doesn't show on my credit file whatsoever; it is an extremely old debt from over ten years ago, but Lowell tell me I apparently last made a payment in October 2014.

    Now, my first instinct is to just pay off the remaining balance for the JD Williams account and be done with it before moving on to the rest. Please do correct me if I should think twice.

    As for the rest - namely Vanquis, Provident, Vodafone, O2 and HSBC - I was wondering if it's worth me submitting an SAR to the original lenders or something to Lowell themselves asking them to prove that they actually own the debt and that I owe it to them? Perhaps I'm clutching at straws, but I don't currently live with my partner and am very much still a single mother on benefits (3 children, one severely disabled). I'm going to struggle enormously to clear those debts off and, given Lowell's history with me, something just keeps telling me not to trust them an inch. For a start, I suspect that the default dates listed by Lowell on my credit report aren't correct - i.e. that they changed the original default dates.

    I've had the phone calls where they're super nice, appear super helpful and caring and promise me they'll sort something out for me - but I know it's all total bull. I'm also not 100% clear on what all the templates are and what purpose they serve, so if there is something I should be doing, I'd really appreciate some pointers!

    In the meantime, I'm due to take a call from one of Lowell's chumps tomorrow morning. He thinks he's going to go through my income and expenditure to make an arrangement for me, but I've already been through that and they concluded I couldn't afford anything, so they were talking about offering me partial settlement. Rather than going through my finances again, I have instead made a list of information that I want to request about my accounts (simple stuff like original account references and original default dates), then I plan to inform him that I'll be in touch via writing in due course.

    If you got this far, congratulations - I don't know how I did. Any and all suggestions are extremely welcome!
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    Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

    HSBC - £1376.00 - this one doesn't show on my credit file whatsoever; it is an extremely old debt from over ten years ago, but Lowell tell me I apparently last made a payment in October 2014. i..e. Statute Barred/

    sounds like one of their phantom payments, i.e. they probably say you paid say £5.00 on 2014, but you challenge them to prove how/what method/by whom/ thru bank or other, they usually come back eventually with office error. somebody will be along regarding you situation soon.

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      Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

      Advice normally is NOT to talk to any DCA on the phone anything and everything should be done in writing keeping everything.
      As you have no doubt found Lowells like other DCAs are not the nicest of people to deal with as its late sleeptight and in the morning some LB members will offer advice

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        Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

        Originally posted by MIKE770 View Post
        HSBC - £1376.00 - this one doesn't show on my credit file whatsoever; it is an extremely old debt from over ten years ago, but Lowell tell me I apparently last made a payment in October 2014.

        sounds like one of their phantom payments, i.e. they probably say you paid say £5.00 on 2014, but you challenge them to prove how/what method/by whom/ thru bank or other, they usually come back eventually with office error. somebody will be along regarding you situation soon.
        Do not go through security with l,owells to-morrow, no phone conversations all in writing from now on. Just hold fire alot of these can be dealt with.


        If you can date the listed companies i.e. CCA taken out / default date/. last payment/acknowledgement etc will help others to advise.

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          Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

          Lee from Vodaphone is on this site, maybe site team can get him to look into your case?

          - - - Updated - - -

          Originally posted by MIKE770 View Post
          Do not go through security with lowells to-morrow, no phone conversations all in writing from now on. Just hold fire alot of these can be dealt with. No Income or Expenditure to lowells either. they seem to be treating you as a possible cash cow?


          If you can date the listed companies i.e. CCA taken out / default date/. last payment/acknowledgement etc will help others to advise.
          okaY!

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            Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

            Thanks!

            Advice taken - I won't go through security with them. I'll just do everything in writing then.

            I've sought out what information I could in regards to dates etc, so here they are:

            Vanquis Credit Card - account opened 13/7/2010, default 31/05/2012 listed by Lowell
            Provident Loans - accounts opened 10/09/2012, default 22/4/14 listed by Lowell, according to Provident entries these were settled in 2012.
            Vodafone - account opened 22/6/2012, default 1/10/2014 listed by Lowell
            JD Williams - account opened 24/8/2010, default 12/6/2012 listed by Lowell
            O2 - account opened 24/1/2011, default 5/10/2011 (one default listed by O2, another listed by Lowell)

            HSBC - I have no exact details as this isn't on my CRA file, but the account was originally opened in 2002 and defaulted within a couple of years after that for sure. I have made no direct payment to HSBC in well over six years; Lowell claim I paid them for this account last year.

            Vanquis - although Lowell have listed the default as being in 2012, I'm pretty sure it defaulted long before then.

            Provident - as you can see, Lowell listed these as defaulting in 2014 even though the corresponding Provident entries state fully settled in 2012 with no defaults. I last made direct payment to these loans in 2013 if memory serves.

            Vodafone - this one is very strange. The account was opened 22/06/12 and was due to end 06/14. I stopped paying in 04/14, all of perhaps six weeks before the end of the contract, which is why it is so bizarre that the final bill was so much. Lowell are apparently investigating this but I haven't heard a single thing back. I fell behind on the last couple of payments due to my daughter being unwell.

            JD Williams - opened in 2010, definitely defaulted WAY before the date stated by Lowell.

            O2 - I think that this default date is probably correct, it's just extremely irritating that there are two defaults instead of one and I have yet to clarify whether either O2 or Lowell are responsible for removing one of them. It makes sense to me that this account would have defaulted in 10/2011 as I was going through a lot of financial difficulty following having to uproot myself and move due to DV.

            Lowell would claim that payments were made for all of these via them, the last payment date being around a year ago EXCEPT for Vodafone, as they apparently only purchased that debt in July of this year.

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              Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

              Good morning, [MENTION=3599]MIKE770[/MENTION] has asked me to take a look at your problems.
              I would suggest we try to take one debt at a time to avoid
              confusion.
              The HSBC account no longer on CRA files so default was registered more than 6 years ago correct?
              A Lowell " Mystery " Payment last year, how much was allegedly paid? This type of payment claim
              is very familiar with Lowell.
              Do you have any idea about this payment, could it be a fee for a SAR or CCA Request?
              Lowell must provide proof of this payment can challenge them on that.

              nem

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              • #8
                Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

                Hi, thanks for helping!

                Well, I did make payments to them in the past, but can't recall specific details from the alleged last payment last year. When I last spoke to them (I know now not to entertain them on the phone, didn't take this morning's call), I pointed out that that debt is well over six years old and she said, "Well you've been paying us for it!" and laughed. I do know that payment equates to acknowledgement of debt, but at the time they were bombarding me so much I felt I didn't have a choice. I was told that I've paid off over £200 on that debt but that nothing has been paid for a year.

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                  Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

                  I should add that when I was making payments, it was a single amount that they then distributed between my debts rather than a single payment for each individual one. However, I stopped paying them because I found that they were taking payments on dates we hadn't agreed in addition to those I had agreed.

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                    Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

                    Hello again!

                    Some extra info re HSBC. It isn't making any sense at all!

                    The account was opened in 2002, I recall this for certain as I was a student in England at the time (I live in NI again now where I'm originally from).

                    However, according to Lowell, the account was defaulted 07/01/2009 - which I find utterly bizarre as I was not making payments on this account for a very long time prior to that. They also claim I made a payment to HSBC directly on 14/04/2011 - again very bizarre as at that particular time, I know for sure I wasn't in the habit of making payments to ANYONE least of all to HSBC.

                    The account was originally an overdraft and a credit card which was compounded into a 'managed loan' for repayment purposes.

                    I just can't fathom how it would have defaulted as late as 2009 as I am absolutely sure I wasn't making regular payments for years.

                    Any further advice on how to proceed with this and the other accounts would be very welcome!

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                      Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

                      [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION]??
                      Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                      It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

                        Originally posted by Kati View Post
                        Thanks [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION]

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                        • #13
                          Re: Help with Lowell greatly appreciated

                          Originally posted by Neen View Post
                          Hello again!

                          Some extra info re HSBC. It isn't making any sense at all!

                          The account was opened in 2002, I recall this for certain as I was a student in England at the time (I live in NI again now where I'm originally from).

                          However, according to Lowell, the account was defaulted 07/01/2009 - which I find utterly bizarre as I was not making payments on this account for a very long time prior to that. They also claim I made a payment to HSBC directly on 14/04/2011 - again very bizarre as at that particular time, I know for sure I wasn't in the habit of making payments to ANYONE least of all to HSBC.

                          The account was originally an overdraft and a credit card which was compounded into a 'managed loan' for repayment purposes.

                          I just can't fathom how it would have defaulted as late as 2009 as I am absolutely sure I wasn't making regular payments for years.

                          Any further advice on how to proceed with this and the other accounts would be very welcome!
                          Hello Neen,

                          Mystery payments Lowell's favourite trick to avoid a debt being statute barred.
                          Would there have been any refunds of any type paid into this account on or around
                          the dates Lowell claim?

                          It's a chance worth taking so try giving HSBC a call and asking about payments to the
                          account IF the default date is correct they could well have the details to hand.

                          Are you resident permanently in NI? If so have you challenged the Jurisdiction
                          of the English Courts?

                          nem

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