E-on

[alsagerman]

Re: E-on

That's exactly what I was thinking of doing New Age Biker, but how would I pay it? They'd need to give me their bank details for me to set up a standing order or something similar and they'll prob refuse that because they want more.

Cally. You will find their details on any bill. Pay through your bank or at any post office. As posted by others, if you can show you are making "reasonable" efforts to clear the balance E.on won't do anything. They may issue threats etc but it's generally hot air (and we've probably paid to heat it......sorry, i'll get my coat).

[Cally]

Re: E-on

Ok thanks for that alsagerman, I'll dig out a bill and find the details.

[mr.ton]

Re: E-on

The problem is, if I switch, or try to, E-on can object to the switch and prevent it happening

Well just try anyway & see what happens

[Shadowcat]

Re: E-on

Type up an Income and Expenditure form to have at the ready.

Also, I'd be inclined to ask for the address of this Utility Management Systems and do a bit of digging about the visitor, what licences he holds and what bodies and/or organisations he belongs to, then complain to the company, copying in E.On and any of the above organisations in. You have every right to end your letter stating that should you feel harrassed again by a visit of this nature you will not hesitate to complain to the police as you found it all very sinister and would like to prevent this awful experience being used against elderly and vulnerable people. Copy Trading Standards too.

You should go to town on this idiot.

[CleverClogs]

Re: E-on

Type up an Income and Expenditure form to have at the ready.

They have no right to insist on knowing one's personal data.

Also, I'd be inclined to ask for the address of this Utility Management Systems

From what I've seen, it does not appear to exist.

There is, however, a company called Utility Management Services - link - which may or may not be connected with any current or former limited company of a similar name. This company is based in Warrington and their 'phone number is 01925 635192, yet there seems not to be any current limited company of a similar name in Warrington or even in Cheshire.

and do a bit of digging about the visitor, what licences he holds

He probably holds a UK driving licence, but that's about all he'll have.

He does not appear to hold a bailiff's certificate.

[QCKate]

Re: E-on

If E-on have not been to court over this then they have no legal powers over you.
It is up to you if you want to change suppliers, you don't need E-on's permission, tough on them if they don't like it - what they don't know wont hurt them & it would be a bit ludicrous of them to try to install a pre payment meter for a company you are no longer with! lol
Once you changed suppliers then you can tell E-on what you will repay, £1 per month if need be and tough on them if they don't like it.
Report them to the regulator as well and complain about their conduct in this matter.
If Darren shows again then tell him to get lost and call police if he refuses.

Sorry Mr Ton, but that isn't right. The switch system involves the new supplier contacting the existing supplier to make sure they have no objections. They CAN object and 95% of the objections are because theres an unpaid bill. The new supplier will not be able to take on the account if Eon object. It may not be fair but thats the way it works.

QCK

[mr.ton]

Re: E-on

It's all hypothetical's Kate (they might this/or might not that) - the OP should still try anyway and see what happens.

[Shadowcat]

Re: E-on

I meant do and I&E upfront for any court proceedings if E.On got silly. If court sees you've done the calculation yourself ahead of the game they may (as in our case) reprimand the claimant for not accepting it which was a pretty nice feeling - if Carlsberg did court claims, that's what they'd feel like

[teaboy2]

Re: E-on

Sorry Mr Ton, but that isn't right. The switch system involves the new supplier contacting the existing supplier to make sure they have no objections. They CAN object and 95% of the objections are because theres an unpaid bill. The new supplier will not be able to take on the account if Eon object. It may not be fair but thats the way it works.

QCK

I see what you mean there Kate, though there is a hole can of worms (legal arguments) that this could open up. Bascially if they cut the Debtor of then and refuse to allow the debtor to transfer to a new supply, then they are denying the debtor from having any electric and/or gas supply. Which could, for one legal example, deny the debtor their right to quite family live and right to Adequate living standards under article 11 of the human rights act which states:

a) Right to adequate housing
The right to adequate housing encompasses more than the provision of basic shelter; it is the right to live somewhere in security, dignity and peace. This means that housing or shelter must fulfil certain basic criteria, such as security of tenure, availability of utilities and other services (e.g. sewage facilities and access to safe drinking water), affordability, habitability, accessibility, location and cultural adequacy of housing. Governments should take progressive steps towards the achievement of all aspects of the right.


Note: It refers purely to water and sanitation as nothing more than examples of "other services" that should be available hence why it is stated as "other services (e.g. sewage facilities and access to safe drinking water)" Yet in the paragraph itself it clearly states "This means that housing or shelter must fulfil certain basic criteria, such as security of tenure, availability of utilities" and as their is no specific reference to which utilities then its clearly referring to all ultilities including available supply of Electric and Gas. Also is siting on the sofa in a freezing cold room with no supply of hot water or ability to cook hot food, all whilst freezing your arse off classed as living in diginty - I think not, as its an undignified way to live.


Off course thats just one example of a legal argument that could be used, if they did cut of the op's electric and gas and refused to allow the op to switch suppliers. Also would Eons actions be considered fair under unfair trading terms legislation if they were to cut the op of and prevent the op swtiching suppliers?



Then you also have the effect of having no electic of gas would have on the OP's health too, expecially in the middle of winter.

[kylebee]

Re: E-on

I see what you mean there Kate, though there is a hole can of worms (legal arguments) that this could open up. Bascially if they cut the Debtor of then and refuse to allow the debtor to transfer to a new supply, then they are denying the debtor from having any electric and/or gas supply. Which could, for one legal example, deny the debtor their right to quite family live and right to Adequate living standards under article 11 of the human rights act which states:

a) Right to adequate housing
The right to adequate housing encompasses more than the provision of basic shelter; it is the right to live somewhere in security, dignity and peace. This means that housing or shelter must fulfil certain basic criteria, such as security of tenure, availability of utilities and other services (e.g. sewage facilities and access to safe drinking water), affordability, habitability, accessibility, location and cultural adequacy of housing. Governments should take progressive steps towards the achievement of all aspects of the right.


Note: It refers purely to water and sanitation as nothing more than examples of "other services" that should be available hence why it is stated as "other services (e.g. sewage facilities and access to safe drinking water)" Yet in the paragraph itself it clearly states "This means that housing or shelter must fulfil certain basic criteria, such as security of tenure, availability of utilities" and as their is no specific reference to which utilities then its clearly referring to all ultilities including available supply of Electric and Gas. Also is siting on the sofa in a freezing cold room with no supply of hot water or ability to cook hot food, all whilst freezing your arse off classed as living in diginty - I think not, as its an undignified way to live.


Off course thats just one example of a legal argument that could be used, if they did cut of the op's electric and gas and refused to allow the op to switch suppliers. Also would Eons actions be considered fair under unfair trading terms legislation if they were to cut the op of and prevent the op swtiching suppliers?



Then you also have the effect of having no electic of gas would have on the OP's health too, expecially in the middle of winter.

I am really sorry if this offends anybody! However i have never heard so much bull shit in my life on a page like this!! Terrible advice well 90% anyway! If you have problems with your gas or electric company call them to resolve if no good attend the magristates court to challenge with the court direct or the company representive! You do not need to be a court bailiff to break in to someones house but instead a employee of the named company or a third party acting on behalf of the said company. And for anyone stupid enough to think they carnt you deserve arresting for obstructing a offical with a warrant! Plus the potential fine of £1000. My realistic advice is CALL THE COMPANY RATHER THAN PRETENDING TO BE A BARRISTER!!!

[kylebee]

Re: E-on

Only court appointed bailiffs have the authority to enter your home & even then there are various rules about what they can and cant do.
Tell Darren to go foxtrot oscar if he shows his ugly mug again and tell him were to shove the £55 charge.
I would have this goon reported to the police (not 999 unless he shows up again) and make the police aware that threats are being made to break into your home.
I would make official complaints to E-on, the OFT and trading standards as well especially if they are being deceptive with you as it would seem.

Complete and utter bull shit!

[seduraed]

Re: E-on

Sorry Mr Ton, but that isn't right. The switch system involves the new supplier contacting the existing supplier to make sure they have no objections. They CAN object and 95% of the objections are because theres an unpaid bill. The new supplier will not be able to take on the account if Eon object. It may not be fair but thats the way it works.

QCK

We managed to switch away from e-on by doing the following and despite having a large debt wijt them. We paid our bill and fifty pounds a week on top for four months and then applied to switch . There was no objection from E-on and we are now with Edf.

[kylebee]

Re: E-on

[QUOTE=seduraed;527942]We managed to switch away from e-on by doing the following and despite having a large debt wijt them. We paid our bill and fifty pounds a week on top for four months and then applied to switch . There was no objection from E-on and we are now with Edf.[/

to be fair some people do get lucky it is a automatic system which is suppose to prevent a supply leaving but like anything it doesnt always work. On the other hand as a buisness if you owe a large amount of money which they dont believe it is recoverable they will let you go so they dont have to deal with the problem anymore