Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

[wales01man]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

I am on the lookout for this clamp it must be somewhere what a rotten thing to do steal a bailiffs clamp

[dj0nes]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

No probs advice noted and accepted!

I am just so angry mainly at the police really, yes sure investigate the case but from both sides don't just slap a stolen marker on a vehicle on the say so of some goon, now I'm stuck as I can't get it removed as no one will take ownership (pun not intended) basically if the finance company hadn't notified me the first I would have known of this is after being chucked into the back of a police car.

[dj0nes]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

I am on the lookout for this clamp it must be somewhere what a rotten thing to do steal a bailiffs clamp

Tell me about it! there is obviously some right 'orrible cretins about.. but that's enough about Mr. bailiff carrying out an invalid levy

Really not sure how to move forward with this though guys, Police fobbing me off not wanting to do anything until the investigating officer comes back, Finance company telling me to take it up with the police and Collect Services will only want to talk if it's about me paying them the full amount.

Meanwhile I've got a car that is legally registered to me to drive but if I do so I could be arrested for stealing it

[bizzybob]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

I am on the lookout for this clamp it must be somewhere what a rotten thing to do steal a bailiffs clamp

If I find it I will weigh it in....

[bizzybob]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Tell me about it! there is obviously some right 'orrible cretins about.. but that's enough about Mr. bailiff carrying out an invalid levy

Really not sure how to move forward with this though guys, Police fobbing me off not wanting to do anything until the investigating officer comes back, Finance company telling me to take it up with the police and Collect Services will only want to talk if it's about me paying them the full amount.

Meanwhile I've got a car that is legally registered to me to drive but if I do so I could be arrested for stealing it

As you are unemployed it may be worth approcacing the creditor, and showing them and Collect services proof you cannot afford the amount demanded, also do as PT suggests and send a copy of the Finance Agreement to the creditor, AND Task, mentioning that theitr EA has acted ultra vires, as the Finance Company regard their EA's siezure as theft.

Get a copy of the agreeement ready to show the investigating officer together with any correspondence from Finance Co in the matter, especially that they rebut entirely any right for the EA to take their goods, or even report it as stolen, as they have no right to Take Control of it under any regulations new or old.


It is entirely possible that the EA removed the clamp as he knew he couldn't have the car in law, but is just trying a new approach. Either way as BB says he will be in the cack very shortly when plod realise he has misrepresented a non crime to them.

[jakkeeye]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Hey All!

Hoping you can help me, I have a outstanding issue with Collect Services of an unpaid parking fine which started at £60 and they are now demanding £1058 for.

Anyways to cut a long story short I received a phone call a week ago from a bailiff who had spotted my vehicle on the road and clamped it. I explained to him I don't have the money he was demanding and to be honest even if I did I wouldn't be paying that he said he would be having the car removed, I informed him the car is on finance and actually doesn't legally belong to me (Which is completely true) his response was "legalisations have changed mate I can take it if I want no problem" to that I phoned up the owners of the car and told them and their response was very different saying it's their asset and they don't give him permission to remove it, I rung the bailiff goon back up and told him that and he was having non of it. By this time it was getting late and he had returned to his yard saying first thing in the morning a recovery truck would be on it's way to remove the car.

It just so happened that over night the clamp disappeared into the night, as they do. So I removed the car and parked it a mile away from home. Was contacted later that day by a rather irate bailiff saying he is going to press charges for criminal damage to his clamp and report the car as stolen. This was the last I heard of the matter.

Just to clarify I have never seen this guy even when clamping the car so surely that in itself is an invalid and abandoned levy?

Today I receive a call from finance company saying the car is showing up on the database as a stolen vehicle and advised me to contact the police which I have done by phoning 101, I explained the situation to the bloke over the phone and he said he would pass the information on to the officer dealing with the case and advised me NOT to drive my own car whilst this matter was on going.

Can someone tell me from a legal point of view where I stand in this, are the Police not assisting the bailiff here as from what it sounds like any Tom dick or harry can phone up and report a random vehicle as stolen? From my unqualified and slightly bias view this bounty hunter bailiff is wasting Police time.

UPDATE: Just as I was typing this the guy from 101 came back to me who was really helpful and told me the details of where this was being investigated (My local police station) but he said the bailiff has shown the investigating officer new legalisation (Surprise, it came from the bailiff, no conflict of interest there :tinysmile_twink_t2:...) which makes taking a financed car now LEGAL and I have to take this up with the investigating officer.

Can anyone give me some advice urgently please? I would be really grateful if I had some facts I could show this officer when I go to see him as it sounds he's just been armed with what the bailiff wants him to hear.

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[bluebottle]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

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hello deer friend ,i suggest you that if your car is hd than you should agreement to third party in this condition you sure for your money ,and you saw some photos of your car removel part of your finance manager ,than this condition manager will transfer your money of third party.if he is not return your money than you can do claim on this company.
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Sorry, but could you be more specific, please? Your message suggests that English may not be your first language. On the face of it the EA has broken the law.

[bizzybob]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Sorry, but could you be more specific, please? Your message suggests that English may not be your first language. On the face of it the EA has broken the law.

Link takes you to a site for Visas regarding Indian nationals it would appear

[dj0nes]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Update: Finance company contacted, I've requested they draft up a letter emphasising ownership of the vehicle is with them and they revoke any attempt for the bailiff to lay claim to the car.

My next step is to complain, I am going to send a letter to Collect Services by e-mail and recorded delivery but I am not holding my breath on them doing anything, I'd be surprised if they could even read :P

Would you suggest me drafting up a letter to my council's (Kingston upon thames) CEO? Seeing as the Council have appointed these goons to enforce they have at least some kind of responsibility over them and it's clear what has happened here isn't legal.

[bluebottle]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

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hello deer friend ,i suggest you that if your car is hd than you should agreement to third party in this condition you sure for your money ,and you saw some photos of your car removel part of your finance manager ,than this condition manager will transfer your money of third party.if he is not return your money than you can do claim on this company.
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Sorry, but could you be more specific, please? Your message suggests that English may not be your first language. On the face of it the EA has broken the law.

Thank you for that, Amethyst. It's a bit like the "I am a Nigerian Army General and have ten million pounds to put in your bank account," phishing email.

[bluebottle]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Update: Finance company contacted, I've requested they draft up a letter emphasising ownership of the vehicle is with them and they revoke any attempt for the bailiff to lay claim to the car. They would be better making a complaint to the police against the EA and the court who issued his certificate. Also, they should contact Collect Services directly and give the directors an earful.

My next step is to complain, I am going to send a letter to Collect Services by e-mail and recorded delivery but I am not holding my breath on them doing anything, I'd be surprised if they could even read :P I would copy the emai/letter to the council and finance company.

Would you suggest me drafting up a letter to my council's (Kingston upon thames) CEO? Seeing as the Council have appointed these goons to enforce they have at least some kind of responsibility over them and it's clear what has happened here isn't legal. The council is ultimately liable under Civil Law. However, any criminal aspects are down to the individual who committed them.

Responses in red text.

[ploddertom]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

It's no excuse but I am unemployed at the moment, and the first I heard of it was when it was at £470 which was already too much for me to pay so stupidly buried my head in the sand which I am not defending at all as it was wrong.

Is this because you had moved and everything had gone to an old address? Have you applied for an Out of Time?

[ploddertom]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Also have a read of this http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...iewing%29-nbsp

[Wombats]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Or indeed this which I see purely by coincidence was put up here about 30 minutes before this thread was started:

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...Party-Goods%29


ANY suggestions of legal remedies, civil or criminal, at this stage are really not helpful, especially when one bears in mind the OP has openly admitted they knew about the PCN.

[bluebottle]

Re: Urgent: Collect Services - Unpaid PCN - Clamped HP Car - Police Involved

Notwithstanding that the EA is being a tit.