Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

Lol! Why is it a daft idea?

It should not work, as it is plainly and patently piffle.

A number of 3rd party and personal friends have used it to positive effect.

Really?

It might fool the ignorant, but it will have bugger all effect on anyone more acquainted with the law.

In your opinion Clever Clogs, when is a good time to use this notice?

In my opinion, the only time such a notice might be of any use is when you've just used the loo.
At least you could use it to wipe your behind. msl:

[labman]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

It should not work, as it is plainly and patently piffle.


Really?

It might fool the ignorant, but it will have bugger all effect on anyone more acquainted with the law.


In my opinion, the only time such a notice might be of any use is when you've just used the loo.

At least you could use it to wipe your behind. msl:

Totally agree - see my link at the bottom of post 44 - that gives you the advice to bailiffs about these notices.

[bizzybob]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

As to seizing and clamping a motor, a courier was parked opposite a debtors delivering in a liveried vehicle to the address he was parke outside. Bailiff comes over and asks was he Mtr XXX of the address opposite, courier answered no, bailiff had already clamped the van..... Courier got a big pair of bolt croppers, and proceded to cut off the lock and chain, bailiff called police and tried to get the courier arrested, What an onanist!!!

[vinnie76]

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No it was my own car, no knock no warning.If he knocked on i would have settled there and then, it was due to me not disclosing whom was driving in time for court hearig. This added some £200 in fees attendance, van -he was in a Citreon Picasso.
He stated the last time someone knocked on they got their nose broke! hence the clamping.
To be honest, the guy was alright really,it erked me that he threatened my girlfriend with locksmiths when her adress has not audit trail to me whatsoever, they merely parked incognito with an ANPR van and presumably followed me to hers.
I offered to repair the clamp and he said its ok, it had already been welded up previously!

How very interesting. But are they not suppose to give you notice first or the levy is not valid. Is that not correct Sir Vere et al?

Did you redress it?

[bluebottle]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

As to seizing and clamping a motor, a courier was parked opposite a debtors delivering in a liveried vehicle to the address he was parke outside. Bailiff comes over and asks was he Mtr XXX of the address opposite, courier answered no, bailiff had already clamped the van..... Courier got a big pair of bolt croppers, and proceded to cut off the lock and chain, bailiff called police and tried to get the courier arrested, What an onanist!!!

What did the plod do, BB, nick the courier or threaten to insert the toe of their boot up the bailiff's backside?

[vinnie76]

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Wow, so they just do what they want when they want. Well, I won't try and unclamp my car myself if it gets to that point. Getting arrested is not worth it!

[bluebottle]

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Wow, so they just do what they want when they want. Well, I won't try and unclamp my car myself if it gets to that point. Getting arrested is not worth it!

No, Vinnie. The less reputable certificated bailiffs think they can do what they want when they want and then lie to the police when they come up against a debtor who is conversant with the law. That's okay until a plod arrives on scene who is familiar with the law, too. That is when a rogue bailiff realises they are well and truly stuffed. If a bailiff has clamped a vehicle and has no right in law to do so, you are better speaking to a police officer, not a police civilian support worker who has not been trained to the same level or standard as a police officer, before even thinking about removing a clamp from a vehicle. If the bailiff is acting for the courts, always check with the courts. Let them tell the bailiff to remove the clamp. Then you can film the bailiff removing the clamp looking well and truly p*ssed-off about it.

[vinnie76]

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Thank you for sharing that information re. the CIVEA. Good to know.

Do you think the police will make them unclamp the car? That is more important to me than redress, as my ex-husband will go ape shit if this happens! I really don't want to have to involve him!

[vinnie76]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

No, Vinnie. The less reputable certificated bailiffs think they can do what they want when they want and then lie to the police when they come up against a debtor who is conversant with the law. That's okay until a plod arrives on scene who is familiar with the law, too. That is when a rogue bailiff realises they are well and truly stuffed. If a bailiff has clamped a vehicle and has no right in law to do so, you are better speaking to a police officer, not a police civilian support worker who has not been trained to the same level or standard as a police officer, before even thinking about removing a clamp from a vehicle. If the bailiff is acting for the courts, always check with the courts. Let them tell the bailiff to remove the clamp. Then you can film the bailiff removing the clamp looking well and truly p*ssed-off about it.

Great ok, at least I know now. Hopefully, it will not come to that. Ok, what if the car is clamped but bailiff has gone? I assume there will be a number for me to call and then they will come. Is that how it works?

Thank you for your time, response and information.

[Sir Vere Brayne d'Emmidge]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

What did the plod do, BB, nick the courier or threaten to insert the toe of their boot up the bailiff's backside?

Probably both

[bizzybob]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

What did the plod do, BB, nick the courier or threaten to insert the toe of their boot up the bailiff's backside?

Threatened to arrest the courier, who would not get out of the van, and quoted company policy that he could only go to a local police office and talk to them there. Plod radioed in, and on the strength of what they were told advised the bailiff to be more careful in future, as the area was rough and he may end up wearing the clamp as a necklace...Bet the bailiff would have had fun getting a long wheelbase Sprinter, full of parcels towed, theft of motor vehicle, and contents...

[bluebottle]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

Thank you for sharing that information re. the CIVEA. Good to know.

Do you think the police will make them unclamp the car? That is more important to me than redress, as my ex-husband will go ape shit if this happens! I really don't want to have to involve him!

If it is a third-party vehicle, Vinnie, and the bailiff has acted contrary to the conditions of a warrant and/or has no right in law to seize the vehicle, it is the creditor who is ultimately responsible for the bailiff's actions and it is they who can be sued, prosecuted or both. The bailiff will get it in the neck, one way or another, as well, as will the bailiff company that employs them.

If, in your case, the courts are the creditor and the bailiff has acted outside the law, it is the courts who will need to deal with the matter and order the bailiff to remove the clamp.

[bluebottle]

Re: Is my car exempt from cold hearted bailiffs?

Threatened to arrest the courier, who would not get out of the van, and quoted company policy that he could only go to a local police office and talk to them there. Plod radioed in, and on the strength of what they were told advised the bailiff to be more careful in future, as the area was rough and he may end up wearing the clamp as a necklace...Bet the bailiff would have had fun getting a long wheelbase Sprinter, full of parcels towed, theft of motor vehicle, and contents...

Pity the plod didn't whack the bailiff round the head with the remains of the clamp. It might have knocked some sense into the bailiff.

[vinnie76]

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Update:
A Bailiff called me, told me that they had clamped my car and were waiting for a truck to come and take it to impound it. My natural instinct was to panic but from the information gained I didn't but clearly told him the vehicle is financed and in the name of my ex-husband. He said Equita had done a finance check (probably under my name) on my car and noting had come up. I told him to come to my home and I would show him proof, he said no and that I must come to the car (parked away from round), I told him I would not be doing that because I know my rights and if he takes the car under the law it would be theft since they using someone else's property as levy against my then outstanding PCN. He was non-plussed and began to tell me how I had to pay £400 plus. I told him it was a separte issue and again the car could not, legally, be removed. He became obtuse, so I called the police, got advice from them and reference number.

The bailiff then told me to call head office, head office told me it was the bailiffs case and I had to speak with him. He was the decision maker. So I called the bailiff back to ask why he was wasting my time. He then directed me to call the 'Clamps' department and gave me the number. The guy in the clamps dept, asked me to email him what I had emailed to Equita the previous days before. He then checked the document, called me back and said the car would not be removed and unclamped. Since confirming that, I have not heard hide or hair from equita or the council who issues the PCN!!

I am now dealing with the PCN!

Power to people! Yeah!
Thanks everyone for your help, support and guidance!

Vinnie

[CleverClogs]

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The bailiff then told me to call head office, head office told me it was the bailiffs case and I had to speak with him. He was the decision maker. So I called the bailiff back to ask why he was wasting my time. He then directed me to call the 'Clamps' department and gave me the number. The guy in the clamps dept, asked me to email him what I had emailed to Equita the previous days before. He then checked the document, called me back and said the car would not be removed and unclamped.

Does that mean you can still use your motor car?

Since confirming that, I have not heard hide or hair from equita or the council who issues the PCN!!

You won't, as their administrative functions have all been outsourced to Crapita, the Cock Up Experts.