How to deal with Marston bailiffs

[M786]

Ok so I owed HMCS £60 which I owed for quite some time. A small £50 fine that rose to £450 but I set up a payment plan and paid in installments. I forgot to pay for 1 month and the £60 I owed them they passed the debt on to Marstons.
I had 1 of their bailiffs attend my home when I wasn't in and left a notice. He wanted £360, £300 which were his fees and £60 HMCS. I ignored it. 1 week later he attended again while I was at work and left a final notice saying if he didn't get his money, he will use the distress warrant issued to him by the court to enter my property with a locksmith.
So I was like you know what? I'll pay the debt I owe which is £60 and not £360 and I paid HMCS £60 and asked them to send me a reciept which I did recieve a few days letter.
But some how the bailiff got hold of my mobile number (god knows how though) and he kept harrassing me for a few days. Once I recieved my confirmation letter from HMCS that I don't owe them anything, I called up the bailiff and told him to he won't get a single penny and his empty threats won't intimidate me at all because I don't owe a single penny. He still kept insisting I owe £300 and he will enter my property with a locksmith.
So my answer to him was 'yeah you go ahead mate and try entering my property because you and me both know your distress warrant is invalid and you can't do sh*t, you're just wasting your time and I've dealt with many bailiffs and not a single one could get a penny off of me. The HMCS debt is cleared and you can't use a distress warrant to recover your own fees, you can only request me to pay your fee, there is no way in the world you can legally force me to'

since that phone call, it's been over 6 weeks I haven't had a single phone call from Marstons and they haven't bothered attending my property either

so that's the way to deal with them, pay off your original debt to your original debtor straight away as soon as you can and that way you'll save minimum £300 (bailiff fee). Once you've paid off your original debt you can tell the bailiff to **** off!! Lol

[bizzybob]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

He may well return and add more fees, including a locksmith for around £190, as apparently the fees are payable. You may wake up one morning with your car clamped. If he doesn't come back then well done, let us know if he does.

[bluebottle]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

M786,

I'm afraid that once a distress warrant is issued by the magistrates court that imposed the fine, the £85 administration fee is payable as soon as the bailiff company HMCTS send the distress warrant to sends you a letter. The £215 attendance fee is also payable if they visit your home.

The legislation that allows the fees to be charged is Rule 52.8, Criminal Procedures Rules 2011. Until the High Court, Court of Appeal or Supreme Court rules to the contrary, I'm afraid you have to pay the £300 fees.

[wales01man]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

Interesting to see how this pans out maybe the OP will keep refusing to pay and the bailiff hives up.
Wait and see time

[bluebottle]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

Interesting to see how this pans out maybe the OP will keep refusing to pay and the bailiff hives up.
Wait and see time

If Marstons decide not to pursue, all well and good, as it may be an indication as to the enforceability of the fees or the amounts involved. However, the Criminal Procedures Rules 2011 have laid down that fees can be charged, but Parliament decided to let the four private sector bailiff companies dictate the fees. That, in my view, should not have been allowed to happen. Those responsible for letting it happen need to be called to account.

[bizzybob]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

If Marstons decide not to pursue, all well and good, as it may be an indication as to the enforceability of the fees or the amounts involved. However, the Criminal Procedures Rules 2011 have laid down that fees can be charged, but Parliament decided to let the four private sector bailiff companies dictate the fees. That, in my view, should not have been allowed to happen. Those responsible for letting it happen need to be called to account.

The bailiff companies should never have had any part in the setting of fees, it will get worse next April.

[bluebottle]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

The bailiff companies should never have had any part in the setting of fees, it will get worse next April.

This discredited government has to remain in office until next April to see the changes come into force, BB. The mood of feeling in the UK at the moment is that the people want the current shower out and changes in the way the UK is governed. I can see there being a bloody big bonfire of oppressive legislation before next April. And I can also see the law being used to remove the current government from office.

[bizzybob]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

This discredited government has to remain in office until next April to see the changes come into force, BB. The mood of feeling in the UK at the moment is that the people want the current shower out and changes in the way the UK is governed. I can see there being a bloody big bonfire of oppressive legislation before next April. And I can also see the law being used to remove the current government from office.

The Quislings and troughers will cling on to power, but the army has been cut back so far that I feel the Generals and the troops wouldn't back them if ordered to shoot civilians on UK streets, by the government. All it needs now is the Queen to do her patriotic duty and dissolve Parliament. Unfortunately i fear that isn't going to happen.

[bluebottle]

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The Quislings and troughers will cling on to power, but the army has been cut back so far that I feel the Generals and the troops wouldn't back them if ordered to shoot civilians on UK streets, by the government. All it needs now is the Queen to do her patriotic duty and dissolve Parliament. Unfortunately i fear that isn't going to happen.

I have a very strong feeling that the Armed Forces and Police will turn on the government. Number 1 Golden Rule of Politics: Never crap on the Armed Forces or the Police as it will be they who will almost certainly pull you out of the excrement should you drop yourself in it. Dump on them at your peril.

I feel it is the people and the courts who will force Cameron and Co out of Westminster.

A friend of mine calls the Tories "The Klingons", not just because they are as evil as the Star Trek characters, but because they cling on to power. I am happy to report that IDS's "Diss the Disabled" mantra isn't working, as I find people are very kind and considerate when I am out in a motorised wheelchair. If any of those people are reading this, a big Thank You from me for your kindness and consideration.

[bizzybob]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

I have a very strong feeling that the Armed Forces and Police will turn on the government. Number 1 Golden Rule of Politics: Never crap on the Armed Forces or the Police as it will be they who will almost certainly pull you out of the excrement should you drop yourself in it. Dump on them at your peril.

I feel it is the people and the courts who will force Cameron and Co out of Westminster.

A friend of mine calls the Tories "The Klingons", not just because they are as evil as the Star Trek characters, but because they cling on to power. I am happy to report that IDS's "Diss the Disabled" mantra isn't working, as I find people are very kind and considerate when I am out in a motorised wheelchair. If any of those people are reading this, a big Thank You from me for your kindness and consideration.

As Plebgate has proved the police are seriously pi$$ed with the lot of them. They are hoping to gag the press next week, but watch out the blogosphere will get them.

[enquirer]

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I have a very strong feeling that the Armed Forces and Police will turn on the government.

That's why they are reducing the armed forces as fast as they can.

The police have been subject to a similar process - manpower reductions, recruitment standards dropped through the floor, and the promotion of 'politically reliable' higher ranks. It's also why they won't allow a single unified police force - the chief of that could have the government out in a twinkling.

[bizzybob]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

That's why they are reducing the armed forces as fast as they can.

The police have been subject to a similar process - manpower reductions, recruitment standards dropped through the floor, and the promotion of 'politically reliable' higher ranks. It's also why they won't allow a single unified police force - the chief of that could have the government out in a twinkling.

They are relying on Europol, and a unified European Army to keep them in

[wales01man]

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With respect to you all.The way we are governed will not change in our lifetime and for many more years to come.the police and the army will not have to deal with a revolution and Cameron Blair and the likes of them will continue to rule the country,
.The queen will not dissolve parliament we are ruled by one thing only that's MONEY that's why bankers are bailed out so they can get more bonuses the people debt in debt and left homeless don't get bailed out.
The debt collecting industry that constantly break the rules go on the whole unpunished,its jobs for the boys and Going to a top public school and Oxbridge gets one ahead of the plebs who pay their taxes and carry on with the struggle.

[labman]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

Ok so I owed HMCS £60 which I owed for quite some time. A small £50 fine that rose to £450 but I set up a payment plan and paid in installments. I forgot to pay for 1 month and the £60 I owed them they passed the debt on to Marstons.
I had 1 of their bailiffs attend my home when I wasn't in and left a notice. He wanted £360, £300 which were his fees and £60 HMCS. I ignored it. 1 week later he attended again while I was at work and left a final notice saying if he didn't get his money, he will use the distress warrant issued to him by the court to enter my property with a locksmith.
So I was like you know what? I'll pay the debt I owe which is £60 and not £360 and I paid HMCS £60 and asked them to send me a reciept which I did recieve a few days letter.
But some how the bailiff got hold of my mobile number (god knows how though) and he kept harrassing me for a few days. Once I recieved my confirmation letter from HMCS that I don't owe them anything, I called up the bailiff and told him to he won't get a single penny and his empty threats won't intimidate me at all because I don't owe a single penny. He still kept insisting I owe £300 and he will enter my property with a locksmith.
So my answer to him was 'yeah you go ahead mate and try entering my property because you and me both know your distress warrant is invalid and you can't do sh*t, you're just wasting your time and I've dealt with many bailiffs and not a single one could get a penny off of me. The HMCS debt is cleared and you can't use a distress warrant to recover your own fees, you can only request me to pay your fee, there is no way in the world you can legally force me to'

since that phone call, it's been over 6 weeks I haven't had a single phone call from Marstons and they haven't bothered attending my property either

so that's the way to deal with them, pay off your original debt to your original debtor straight away as soon as you can and that way you'll save minimum £300 (bailiff fee). Once you've paid off your original debt you can tell the bailiff to **** off!! Lol

I agree wholeheartedly with your penultimate sentence - pay straight away and avoid the bailiff fees. In fact if you do that, you wouldn't even get the pleasure of the last sentence as the bailiff would never be instructed.

I'm not too sure about the rest, but excellent advice at the end. Thank you!

[bluebottle]

Re: How to deal with Marston bailiffs

The fact that the Tories are trying to rush a gagging bill through Parliament without proper scrutiny and which will stifle debate and free speech says a lot. The gagging bill, in fact, does nothing to curb lobbying by vested interests. If anything, it makes it easier for them.

Cameron and Co are living in a fantasy world that is about to coming crashing down around them. The American politicians are determined to bring in Glass-Stegall which separates retail banking from investment or casino banking. The international banking cartel is crapping itself as if Glass-Stegall gets enacted it means they won't be able to use retail customers' money to gamble with and they will probably kiss goodbye to their bonuses because they won't have the money to gamble with and make obscene and fraudulent profits. It is a fact that those working in the banking industry often tell others they work in another employment sector, rather than admit they are in banking for fear of getting their heads kicked in. A lot of people are leaving banking because they have realised it is being run by crooks.

Will the way we are governed change in our lifetimes? In all probability, yes, it will because people have woken up to what is going on and are talking about it. The politicians know this and know that they cannot continue with the "Don't do as we do, do as we say," mantra. Change will happen whatever. You cannot fight it. If you do, it will impose itself on you, sometimes, in the most unpleasant way. As for the EU, that is likely to collapse.