Bailiffs & Council Tax

[CleverClogs]

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I went through the debt & payments with the guy on the phone & his reply was he didn't know what the bailiffs can charge, he didn't necessarily agree with what they charge but it was nothing to do with them!!

Which is - of course - utter nonsense.

Regardless of the indoctrination and the scripts given to the Crapita drones at your local council, the fact remains that the council is responsible for the actions (and fees) of those enforcement parasites it has seen fit to appoint,

[vunerable]

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really is a case of "power gone to their heads" in a lot of instances. Some of them are in the same category of those who commit domestic abuse.....controlling & bullying to the point of getting full submission.

[labman]

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Vulnerable,

Have you got the information from the council specified in post 3 yet, and sent the SAR linked in post 15? If not, you really need to. :beagle:

[vunerable]

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Vulnerable,

Have you got the information from the council specified in post 3 yet, and sent the SAR linked in post 15? If not, you really need to. :beagle:

I asked the council & was given the information as above post #44
Other letter sent.

just had second visit leaving an item that looks like a raffle ticket stating I owe "BBC" and stating "unless you contact the bailiff TODAY the option to pay by instalments will be removed. Your file will then be passed to our removal bailiffs who will charge you additional costs. Your goods will be at risk"

[bluebottle]

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I asked the council & was given the information as above post #44
Other letter sent.

just had second visit leaving an item that looks like a raffle ticket stating I owe "BBC" and stating "unless you contact the bailiff TODAY the option to pay by instalments will be removed. Your file will then be passed to our removal bailiffs who will charge you additional costs. Your goods will be at risk"

Unless they have a valid and lawful levy, they will not do any removing. Although you should not ignore this latest threat-o-gram, I would make it clear to B.B.C. that they need to get a grip on their contracted enforcement agents. I would ask to speak to a council officer. The Head of Revenues or their deputy might be a sensible course. That way, you by-pass the Capita crowd. The phrase that coems to mind is "Deal with the organ-grinder, not the monkey."

[ploddertom]

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Vulnerable,

Have you got the information from the council specified in post 3 yet, and sent the SAR linked in post 15? If not, you really need to. :beagle:

I asked the council & was given the information as above post #44
Other letter sent.

The info given in Post 44 is not what was asked to be furnished in Post 3, without the rest of the info it is difficult to comment.

[vunerable]

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Because of the state I have got my health into a really good friend is lending me the money to pay the debt (£817.34 ct plus £42.50 bailiff charge) for this year (2013/14) Thank you guys for all your support & help on this account.

Now to sort last years. Still awaiting information to confirm balance for 2012/13

[vunerable]

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The info given in Post 44 is not what was asked to be furnished in Post 3, without the rest of the info it is difficult to comment.

are ok will contact them again

[vunerable]

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Spoken to the person at the council, who dealt with the van issue last year, she looked into the situation & has informed me, in writing, that I do not owe any money to r & r all accounts are settled

Thank you all for being there for me during all this stress really appreciate it

Now to wait for the reply to my letter to go after them for the money they owe me for unlawful fee charging.

[labman]

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Have you got this in writing? If not, I would ask for it. :beagle:

[vunerable]

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Have you got this in writing? If not, I would ask for it. :beagle:

Oh yes in writing & in a safe place

[vunerable]

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I received a reply from R & R with information on my charges on previous accounts. I then wrote an email requesting refund of section H as nothing was removed from my property this was the reply i received.

Please be advised that the Section H is charged in accordance with the legislation under regulation 45 and is charged where a levy of goods takes place and an arrangement is made with the debtor; it is an administration charge. Goods are not required to removed from your property for this charge to be applied and therefore will not be refunded. Do I go to the Ombudsman next about this?

[bizzybob]

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I received a reply from R & R with information on my charges on previous accounts. I then wrote an email requesting refund of section H as nothing was removed from my property this was the reply i received.

Please be advised that the Section H is charged in accordance with the legislation under regulation 45 and is charged where a levy of goods takes place and an arrangement is made with the debtor; it is an administration charge. Goods are not required to removed from your property for this charge to be applied and therefore will not be refunded. Do I go to the Ombudsman next about this?

Have you initiated a Stage 2 Formal Complaint, if not do so, then when they still argue the toss then take it to LGO, other Bregles will no doubt have further advice

[outlawlgo]

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I agree! The LGO should know about this. They found in favour of the complainant on the Head H issue in a recent report.

It sounds like Bournemouth Borough Council should be taking legal advice concerning applying schedule 5 Head H fees in instances where goods are not removed or where no advertising costs have been incurred.

In regards its reference to Regulation 45 of the Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992....

Regulation 45(4)

".......the sale shall not be proceeded with and the goods shall be made available for collection by the debtor.

It should be focussed on that:

Seized goods which remain on the property are;

a) unlikely to have been "for sale"

b) even less likely to have been "advertised" and incurring out-of-pocket expenses

c) impossible to be made available for collection.

[bizzybob]

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I agree! The LGO should know about this. They found in favour of the complainant on the Head H issue in a recent report.

It sounds like Bournemouth Borough Council should be taking legal advice concerning applying schedule 5 Head H fees in instances where goods are not removed or where no advertising costs have been incurred.

In regards its reference to Regulation 45 of the Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992....

Regulation 45(4)

".......the sale shall not be proceeded with and the goods shall be made available for collection by the debtor.

It should be focussed on that:

Seized goods which remain on the property are;

a) unlikely to have been "for sale"

b) even less likely to have been "advertised" and incurring out-of-pocket expenses

n c) impossible to be made available for collection.

Exactly, unless they are "physically" removed from the debtors premises, then how can they justify this?