Problems with Newlyn PLC

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Hi
No I havnt had any answer from the Council. Im still waiting for that.
I have also red the Council tax regulations 1992 - Regulation 45 and there is nothing about charging 3 times for each LO.
How to explain them that I know for a fact that nobody from Newlyns Has not been to my house never ever. Im unemployed with a little baby so I was at home all the time. There is also no letters from them saying Hand delivered or something.
Thank You again

[ploddertom]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

For issues connected ith proof of visits they will try to use the argument that GPS technology puts the Bailiff at your door - it doesn't it just shows him in the general area where he may just have driven past. Put them to strict proof of their claims of visits.

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Put them to strict proof of their claims of visits.

How to do that? My english is not great so Im having problems sometimes with achieving in a sentence what i would like to achieve.
Thank You
Iwona

[ploddertom]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

How to do that? My english is not great so Im having problems sometimes with achieving in a sentence what i would like to achieve.
Thank You
Iwona

Just that - ask them to provide proof of their attendance and see what they come up with.

[aksiu]

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I will do it tomorrow, what else should I write to them?

[bizzybob]

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I will do it tomorrow, what else should I write to them?

Tell them that the Blaby Council and Rossendales report from the Local Government Ombudsman makes it clear that on;y one set of fees can be charged for one visit irrespective of how many Liability Orders they are enforcing "simultaneously" as in at the same time on the same day.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Tell them that the Blaby Council and Rossendales report from the Local Government Ombudsman makes it clear that on;y one set of fees can be charged for one visit irrespective of how many Liability Orders they are enforcing "simultaneously" as in at the same time on the same day.

Please see the attached file.

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Thank you for all your advices

Please see the attached file.

I had a look and its looks like the multiple charges depends from the contract between the council and the bailiff in this case in Leicestershire. Unfortunatelly Coventry Councill is not there. Unless I did not understad that corectly.
I will try now to write a message to Newlyns again
Thanks
Iwona

[bizzybob]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Thank you for all your advices
I had a look and its looks like the multiple charges depends from the contract between the council and the bailiff in this case in Leicestershire. Unfortunatelly Coventry Councill is not there. Unless I did not understad that corectly.
I will try now to write a message to Newlyns again
Thanks
Iwona

The regulations provide that only one set of fees can be charged, and this is reinforced by the Blaby ruling. A contract between a council and their bailiffs cannot over rule Law or Regulations no matter what the muppets claim.

[bluebottle]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Thank you for all your advices
I had a look and its looks like the multiple charges depends from the contract between the council and the bailiff in this case in Leicestershire. Unfortunatelly Coventry Councill is not there. Unless I did not understad that corectly.
I will try now to write a message to Newlyns again
Thanks
Iwona

All local authorities know of the LGO adjudications where the LGO has slammed charging multiple fees for multiple LOs executed on the same date. The council and bailiffs have no excuse.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

I had a look and its looks like the multiple charges depends from the contract between the council and the bailiff in this case in Leicestershire. Unfortunately Coventry Council is not there.

The same law applies wherever in England the council might be.

There is currently another case on here involving Newlyns and Coventry $hitty Council; just as in your case, Newlyns are being obstructive, opaque and are generally playing at Silly Buggers, whilst the council appears determined to pretend that the antics of its bailiffs has nothing to do with them and seems to be playing with the sticks they've jammed up their backsides.

I expect that, unless the council gives in, the Local Government Ombudsman may have a surprise for them.

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Thank You all for all the advices. I have send them a message again with the Local Government Ombudsman. Im still waiting for reply.
I have asked them again to confirm
the name(s) of the bailiff(s) that attended on each occasion a fee was charged.
the name(s) of the Court(s) at which the Bailiff(s) was/were Certificated.
the date of certification.
This is about third time Im asking them about that and they keep avoiding the answear.
Im ready to pay the full amount but they have to deduct the unfair charges (I did not mention that in the message - should I?)
The Council has also confirmed that there are 2 LOs and including the Bailiff charges there is about 770 pounds and they refused to take my debt back from Newlyns.
It also looks to me that Coventry Council works really close with Newlyns because all my messages to council are being forwarded to Newlyns and Newlyns keep doing the same to the council.
Im just hoping that after that last message with attached Local Government Ombudsman file they will deduct them silly fees
Thank You again
Iwona

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Hello again
I just get the reply for my last email and suprisyngly not by email but throught Royal Mail



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Please, please, please someone help me to write to them. Im runing out of ideas how to make them to cancel these charges.
Im willing to pay what i owe but I dont want to pay for something what did not happend (bailifs visit to my house.)
Im sure I can startle them with some legal institutions that they are breaking the law.
They do want me to prove them that they have not been to my house. This is just ridiculeus. My mum was here from Poland to visit me during their alleged visits so she is my witness. Again they have not refer to an file attached to the email (Local Government Ombudsman).
Still no answear from about who has visit my house etc...
Please give me some patterns. Please
Thank You
Iwona

[bizzybob]

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Do these council and Newlyn people not understand them MUST give the bailiffs details on request, otherwise anyone coming out of Wimson Green could be calling claiming to be a bailiff, send a photocopy to your MP highlighting where they have acted unlawfully.

[bluebottle]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

There is a possibility that Newlyns are writing all the letters. This appears to be an unintended consequence of the contracting-out legislation which instructs contractors to answer correspondence in the name of the local authority to which they are contracted. Sadly, the reality is that there will be those who will see an opportunity to exploit weaknesses in legislation in a negative way.