Problems with Newlyn PLC

[aksiu]

Hi
My name is Iwona
Im Polish so would like to apogize for any mistakes

I would like to ask for a help. I dont know what to do.
About 4 years ago I have lived in Coventry with some not a very nice man (my partner)
I was giving him the money to pay the bills incl Council tax. As its turns out recently he has not payed for a 3
months.

We have split up, I met my current partner and I have move out from Coventry. We live in Lancashire now.
Recently i have recived a letter from Newlyn Plc saying that i owe them 770 pounds and if I wont pay it thay will
take everything I have. I have tryed to contact the council. They told me i did not pay for 3 months but they dont know how much i owe them because the company called Newlyn is dealing with that. My council tax was 129pcm so i cant understand why they want me to pay 770. I have also contacted Newlyn PLC, but other than that figure and questions about all my details they were not interested in helping me. Very rude and agresive.
Thay have sent me a letter on which there is 3 Newlyns reference number with 3 different ammount. The last one is ocer 431 pounds. I dont know what is that for.
I do want to pay my debt but I cant afford 770 pounds to pay. I would like to pay what I owe to the council which is around 390 pounds. I contacted them from private number so except the adress and my name they dont have any details of me or my partner. They were asking about beneffits I got, phone numbers, NIN and many other things but i did not give it to them.
Im unemployed, Im looking after 2 kids, my english is not perfect and all them word from the world of low... I just cant get my head arround it. My partnes is working but we cant afford to pay 770 pound.
Please help me, what to do now, where to start.
Please help.
Thanks Iwona

[ploddertom]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Regardless oif what the Council say you need to get back on to them and ask the following questions:
1 - how many Liability Orders they have against you
2 - the dates they were obtained
3 - the period of time they cover
4 - the address they cover
5 - the dates they were passed to the Bailiff
6 - the dates & amounts of any payments

[ploddertom]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

As for the Bailiff, you need to know what fees they are charging. Send them Letter 1 from http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...Useful-Letters Send initially by email followed by a copy in the post.

[ploddertom]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Also have a read of http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...67-Council-Tax

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Also have a read of http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...67-Council-Tax

Thank You for your advice. i Have read that thread before. Im going to contact council and send the letter tommorow
Thanks Again

[bizzybob]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

The problem is that it is a joint debt, were you named on the Tenancy Agreement? the cou8ncil will go after whichever party it thinks will pay up.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

The problem is that it is a joint debt, were you named on the Tenancy Agreement? the council will go after whichever party it thinks will pay up.

I'd have said that the problem comprises the facts that:

1. it's Coventry Council
2. they've appointed Newlyn plc as bailiffs and
3. Newlyn plc seem to be overcharging or may have charged for a levy that was not done, for visits that may not have been made, or for "tracing" that is not permitted in the Regulations.

Until the OP receives details of the charges Newlyn thinks are applicable, it will be difficult to determine which version of Silly Buggers they have chosen to play.

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

The problem is that it is a joint debt, were you named on the Tenancy Agreement? the cou8ncil will go after whichever party it thinks will pay up.

I think its not a joint debt. It was only me on the Tenancy agreement. The problem is that I was trusting my expartner that he will pay a council tax (i was giving him the money every month) Unfortunatelly he didnt pay it.
I have sent an email to Newlyn with all the questions from "letter 1" Im going to send a normal letter as well. I have tryed to contact the council but keep tellig me to contact Newlyn. So I sent them an email and Im waiting for a replys.
Thank you all very much

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Hello again
After 3 long weeks I have recived an email with BREAKDOWN OF BAILIFFS’ COSTS.


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First of all nobody has never been here to give me any letters so I cant understad how can they charge me for 2 visits
Can they charge me 3 times for one vist even there was not one
There are 3 Newlyns ref numbers (as you can see on the picture) but only 2 client ref numbers from coventry council according to the council.
Please help me. What to do next
Thank You All
Iwona

[bluebottle]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Check with the council exactly how many Liability Order apply to you. If they confirm only two, Newlyns need challenging. If they have not visited your home and left notice of their visits, which is their proof they have visited, the visit fees cannot be charged. Also, if they are charging levy fees, they have to prove they have a valid and lawful levy to be able to charge them. If they have not attended and not left notice of any levy and have not gained peaceable entry to your home, the levy fees are fictitious and, accordingly, the visit and levy fees are fraudulent.

Get the council to confirm the number of LOs in writing. Send an email, followed by a letter, to Newlyns, requesting a written breakdown of fees, which they are legally-obliged to provide without charge to yourself. Take a look in the Useful Letters tab in the Bailiff Forum and use the relevant template letter.

I would make the council aware of Newlyns' fictitious fees and make it clear they have not left proof of any visits.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

After 3 long weeks I have received an email with BREAKDOWN OF BAILIFFS’ FANCIFUL AND FATUOUS FEES.

I've amended your post for you.

First of all nobody has never been here to give me any letters so I cant understand how can they charge me for 2 visits

That is hardly difficult to understand, bearing in mind the psychopathology prevalent among bailiffs:

Bailiffs tell lies!

Can they charge me 3 times for one visit

Not lawfully, so that's £85 (2 x £42.50) off the bill.

There are 3 Newlyns ref numbers (as you can see on the picture) but only 2 client ref numbers from Coventry council according to the council.

How many liability orders does the council have and for how much is each?

[bluebottle]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

It doesn't sound like they've left any proof of visits, Cloggy. In that case, they cannot charge the visit fees. Also, it sounds like no proof of valid and lawful levies either. Unless I am mistaken, charging multiple visit fees on the same date is a no-no where CT arrears are involved.

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Check with the council exactly how many Liability Order apply to you.

Every time i have tried to ring them they keep sending me to Newlyns. From the letters newlyns have sent me I assume that there are 2 LO`s
Client Ref no1 for 163.97 pounds
Client Ref no2 for 175.48 and 431.50 pounds
Could anyone help me to write a letter to Coventry Council which will look more oficial and make them reply for it?

If they have not visited your home and left notice of their visits, which is their proof they have visited, the visit fees cannot be charged. Also, if they are charging levy fees, they have to prove they have a valid and lawful levy to be able to charge them. If they have not attended and not left notice of any levy and have not gained peaceable entry to your home, the levy fees are fictitious and, accordingly, the visit and levy fees are fraudulent.

They have never been to my house. They havnt also left any notice of their visit.

Send an email, followed by a letter, to Newlyns, requesting a written breakdown of fees

I have done that. I was waiting 3 weeks for a reply which is af few posts above.

It doesn't sound like they've left any proof of visits, Cloggy. In that case, they cannot charge the visit fees. Also, it sounds like no proof of valid and lawful levies either. Unless I am mistaken, charging multiple visit fees on the same date is a no-no where CT arrears are involved.

No thay have not.
The question is what should I send them as a reply which will look as official as BREAKDOWN OF BAILIFFS’ COSTS. letter which i have send them what made them reply.
Again Please somebody help me to write a letter to Newlyns which will state that they want to charge me for visites they have not done and according to the low they are not able to do so.
Thank You
Iwona

[aksiu]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Hello againI have sent an email to Newlyn PLC as a response for Breakdown of costs. That how its looks like
Thank You for your replyUnfortunatelly You have not answeared my questions.You have not visited my home and left notice of your visits, which is your proof you have visited, the visit fees cannot be charged. Also, if you are charging levy fees, you have to prove you have a valid and lawful levy to be able to charge them. If you have not attended and not left notice of any levy and have not gained peaceable entry to my home, the levy fees are fictitious and, accordingly, the visit and levy fees are fraudulent.So Im askin you to remove the fees which according to the law You can not charge me (127.50 pounds)Also these 3 questions stays with no answearc the name(s) of the bailiff(s) that attended on each occasion a fee was charged.d the name(s) of the Court(s) at which the Bailiff(s) was/were Certificated.e the date of certification.I have sent a letter to the council to confirm the number of Liability Orders in writing also the total I owe to the Coventry Council.This is not a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act S7 1998 so does not incur a fee of L10. You are obliged to provide this information.I require this information within 14 days.Yours faithfully,In a response I got something like thisUploaded with ImageShack.usCould Please someone help me with this as Im geting more and more confused
Thanks
Iwona

[ploddertom]

Re: Problems with Newlyn PLC

Have you had an answer from the Council about the questions posed in Post 2? Until you have this it is difficult to comment apart from the fact they are charging for each Order on the same date.