help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

[CleverClogs]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

Pay the parking penalty, as that will be the least expensive option.

[bizzybob]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

Pay the parking penalty, as that will be the least expensive option.

And the least painful as all bailiff fees are at this point gone, but will return if they go for enforcement againif you don't pay. Jacobs are a nasty lot who bear grudges so next time they may take the car immediately. Don't give them the satisfaction.

[labman]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

Good advice CC! I totally agree they should pay up and put it behind them.

[madmaria43]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

Good advice CC! I totally agree they should pay up and put it behind them.

Hi Everyone
just to get this straight are you saying that i should pay the bailiff the £394.00 or the original pcn which was £25 then after 14 days went to £50 then for some reason went to £82. Which amount??

I dont feel like paying them anything its a damn joke.

When you think about this whole situation logically I am not a criminal, i am an honest person who made a genuine mistake. This mistake was leaving my car in a council car park over the time paid by 14 minutes. I would like to know what on earth i did that was so bad that i have to compensate the council and bailiff nearly four hundered pounds. I did not cause the council to loose any money by parking over my time because the car park was virtually empty so no one was waiting for my space. there fore they lost no money. I was not causing an obstruction, or causing any interference with anyone elses property, i was not causing anyone any health or safety issues. If the machine had accepted payment of the over time i would have paid it there and then but it doesnt offer that service. and no change either for that matter.

so what have i done that is so bad that I need punishing by having my car clamped then taken away to be sold. I went fourteen minutes over my time in a car park. for godsake! its just bloody ridiculous if it wasnt for the fact that it is the council and it is backed up by bloody traffice law it would be laughable.

Has the whole justice system gone mad there is no logic and no reason its crazy !!!!!!????????

[wales01man]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

As you say,you went over the time you paid for.in the car park I expeft there are several signs all of which state the fees for parking and penalties for overstaying.Now after the penalty was not paid the Bailiffs are after you as long as they have acted within the rules there is no escape,your choice pay up or get more fees added on. A kesson for all read the terms and conditions of everyhing or face the penalties remember once you break the rules in a Council car park theres little escape for anyone

[labman]

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Hi Everyone
just to get this straight are you saying that i should pay the bailiff the £394.00 or the original pcn which was £25 then after 14 days went to £50 then for some reason went to £82. Which amount??

You appear to ignored at least three pieces of good advice on this thread. IF you had sent off the request from post 2 we would be able to help you with the amount to be paid, but we can't. IF you had acted on posts 15 and 20 and sent off the MALG forms (though these may not have made much difference in this situation, they're designed more for general debt issues) then you may have found yourself in a far better position than you do now.

The only safe way to get them off your backs is pay the full amount. Sadly, that will almost certainly mean you pay considerably more than you would otherwise have done.

In future, a little tip for your mental health condition, if you are asked to do something in this sort of situation, do it immediately, or you may forget. At least then it is done and you can forget about it till the reply comes. Mental illness is renowned for making you forgetful, as is some of the medication for it.

The other thing, of course, is that with a mental health illness, you MUST declare it to the DVLA and to your insurance company, otherwise you are at risk of being uninsured should anything happen. Have you done this?

[madmaria43]

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You appear to ignored at least three pieces of good advice on this thread. IF you had sent off the request from post 2 we would be able to help you with the amount to be paid, but we can't. IF you had acted on posts 15 and 20 and sent off the MALG forms (though these may not have made much difference in this situation, they're designed more for general debt issues) then you may have found yourself in a far better position than you do now.

The only safe way to get them off your backs is pay the full amount. Sadly, that will almost certainly mean you pay considerably more than you would otherwise have done.

In future, a little tip for your mental health condition, if you are asked to do something in this sort of situation, do it immediately, or you may forget. At least then it is done and you can forget about it till the reply comes. Mental illness is renowned for making you forgetful, as is some of the medication for it.

The other thing, of course, is that with a mental health illness, you MUST declare it to the DVLA and to your insurance company, otherwise you are at risk of being uninsured should anything happen. Have you done this?

Hi Labman

Sorry it has taken so long to answer your questions and give you all an update on the situation but I have been very busy, and also very ill over the past few weeks, therefore (NOT ignoring the advice you had given me, but actually acting upon it, when i was well enough to do so) .

I feel that your presumptions Labman, were a little premature if you don't mind me saying so. I really find it quite insulting that you insinuate that i have come on here to ask for help, only to ignore the good advice that I have received from the very kind people offering it. You obviously do not know me very well, because if you did you would not be implying that I have come on here to waste peoples time.

Therefore regarding the MALG form this was finally collected from my GP's surgery, the form had been put in some doctors inbox tray, who had then subsequently left the practice without completing it, therefore it ended up going round the building until someone decided to fill it in and the receptionist managed to track it down. This was then sent immediately to the council and to the bailiffs.

I had already contacted my local Councillor in writing, prior to this being suggested in post 15, and I was, and still am waiting for a reply. In the meantime I wrote an official complaint to the council ( which have a policy where by you have to go through a 3 step process) once you have completed the 3 steps, and received a response, if you are still not happy with the outcome, you can then refer the matter to the local ombudsman.

I managed to get to step two, and at that point I received a satisfactory response to my complaint, and the councils acceptance of my offer to pay £50 as full and final settlement, which included all enforcement action ceasing immediately on receipt of my payment. I made the payment on Monday the 23rd of September and the council emailed me to confirm they had received it and that would be the end of the matter.

I do hope that my post and the advice I received is helpful to other people in the same situation, and also by doing what I did adds another useful approach to similar problems.

With regard to your advice regarding my mental health problems, I am well aware of the way that it affects my day to day life and I can assure you I am also incredibly aware of how medication can make you feel tired, forgetful, nauseous, angry, emotional, disconnected, and at times completely unable to function.So without sounding ungrateful for your advice I find your comments rather patronising, I have a mental illness, which does not mean that i am uneducated or stupid.

Therefore because i am educated and knowledgeable and not stupid I am glad that I did not follow the one piece of advice that you so kindly gave me, which was to pay the full amount, as I would be in a much worse position now by doing so to the tune of being out of pocket by £340.00.

It was very thoughtful of you and you are quite correct in stating that i need to inform the DVLA of my illness, and my insurance company, and I can assure you that this was done at the onset of my illness over six years ago. My insurance premiums increased slightly, and the DVLA were very understanding and did not withdraw my license. Although in saying that I very rarely drive the car, as most days I do not feel well enough to do so, therefore my husband drives me to wherever I need to go.

Just one final TIP for you labman, maybe in future when responding to someone on the forum who has a mental illness, you may find it helpful to adopt a less patronising and more understanding attitude towards people with mental illness, and not to jump to conclusions that peoples advice is being willfully ignored. I would like to add that I found it quite upsetting that you made these presumptions about me, when in reality I am a person who is very genuine, and extremely grateful, and appreciative, of all the help and advice that the good people on this forum have taken the time to offer to me.

So thank you to everyone for your help and support, you gave me the confidence and the push to believe in my own capabilities and take a chance by acting on my own decision, which in the end proved to be successful.
Kind regards
Madmaria43

[bluebottle]

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Good to see that your local authority exercised commonsense. It is, indeed, refreshing to find local authorities who do this. All too often often, local authorities use certificated bailiff companies as a default option, rather than a last resort, which is what they should do and Communities and Local Government Secretary of State Eric Pickles has decreed they should do.

A good result for you. Well done.

[bizzybob]

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Glad things are sorted well done you. :tongue2:

[labman]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

An excellent result in the end well done. I apologise for any misunderstanding there may have been, or any offence caused. That would never be my intention, so if I caused you distress, I apologise sincerely.

I am well aware of some of the issues you are dealing with, and indeed others' perceptions of them, so please accept the apology in the spirit in which it is intended.

I am genuinely pleased you got a positive result, and that you feel more confident now to deal with these issues by yourself. Well done!

[PlanB]

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So thank you to everyone for your help and support, you gave me the confidence and the push to believe in my own capabilities and take a chance by acting on my own decision, which in the end proved to be successful.

This site likes to empower people to take control of their lives and you certainly did in this case.

What a great result :high5:

[madmaria43]

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An excellent result in the end well done. I apologise for any misunderstanding there may have been, or any offence caused. That would never be my intention, so if I caused you distress, I apologise sincerely.

I am well aware of some of the issues you are dealing with, and indeed others' perceptions of them, so please accept the apology in the spirit in which it is intended.

I am genuinely pleased you got a
positive result, and that you feel more confident now to deal with these issues by yourself. Well done!

Hi Labman
Thankyou for your reply and your apology which is genuinely accepted.

I meant no disrespect to you when i addressed the comments you made but i felt the compulsion at the time to make
it clear to everyone that i am not the type of person who would ignore the advice people who like yourself have their time and obvious knowledge free of charge.

I was at the time very worked up and distressed by the whole situation and i think sometimes on forums we can all be guilty of making presumptions about people and be too quick to judge people we have never met just on the basis of what they write and how they come across merely on how they write their posts. Nobody knows what someone is doing between postings, some are beavering away to try and find answers on their own by reading law books which i often do when my brain works. Then there are others that just sit back and hope someone gives them a solution.Then doesnt even bother thanking anyone.

Finally I given advice to others on many forums over the years too based on experience not because i am qualified to do so but have learned not to get upset when some people ignore my advice or do the opposite because i csnt make people do what i want and if i expected them to i would end up frustrated bitter and angry and i dont want to make myself ill just because of other peoples problems. i just take consolation in the fact that if just one person gets benefit from my advice then thats fine and that in itself makes me feel good inside.

i now know you are not well labman and i genuinely wish yoi well and hope you get the support and help you need with poitive results in the future. take care. and kind regards madmaria43

[labman]

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Thank you, and I hope to see you posting further on here. :beagle:

[Bill-K]

Re: help please jacobs bailiffs clamped car for unpaid pcn

This site likes to empower people to take control of their lives and you certainly did in this case.

What a great result :high5:

I Echo that. aw:

[FlamingParrot]

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I was at the time very worked up and distressed by the whole situation and i think sometimes on forums we can all be guilty of making presumptions about people and be too quick to judge people we have never met just on the basis of what they write and how they come across merely on how they write their posts. Nobody knows what someone is doing between postings, some are beavering away to try and find answers on their own by reading law books which i often do when my brain works. Then there are others that just sit back and hope someone gives them a solution.Then doesnt even bother thanking anyone.

Truer words were never spoken!

Without tone of voice, facial expression or body language, it's very easy to misunderstand what people are trying to say.

That's one reason for my use of smileys and graphics, to try and make up for the deficiencies associated with the printed word.