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  • Notice of Seizure

    Good morning all.

    i hope I can find someone who can answer some questions about the situation I find myself in.

    My partner and I returned from holiday yesterday morning to find a "Form 55 - Notice of Seizure" in our porch from "The Sheriff's Office".

    The notice is addressed to a former lodger of ours who moved out in August last year. After a couple of months he stopped collecting his mail and I began marking any post to him as "return to sender", I do not have a forwarding address for him.

    I attempted to call the number given on the form yesterday to explain this but it will not connect, and I'm not sure anyone would believe me anyway- I'm sure bailiffs are lied to all the time.

    There are a few things that I was hoping to find advice on as they make the situation unusual:

    We are currently in the process of moving; the business we run has obtained work away from home so we are renting out our home to friends while we are away, we were planning on a moving date of this weekend, but I don't want our friends to have to deal with this. The form 55 also states it is an offence to remove anything from the property, but surely that doesn't apply to our own possessions, just to his- of which there are none...

    As we've been staying with family while the move takes place, many of our papers are with my parents, such as council tax statements that would show he n longer lives with us, so if they do call again this week I have no way to prove he's not at the house.

    We have a SORN-registered car in the front garden, which (as we are renting the house to friends) we were planning on leaving there until we can sort it out- could an unscrupulous/overenthusiastic bailiff seize the vehicle then leave us to prove that it doesn't belong to the former lodger?

    The former lodger shared a surname with my partner (and thus my son and the baby we're expecting next month), which is fairly common in my partner's country of origin, although quite unusual here, will this pose any issues- other than making it look like we're lying, which they're going to assume anyway, or that he's somehow related to us?

    Will our address obtain some sort of black mark against it from these actions?

    The amount owed is quite substantial and I'm worried about the horror stories you often hear about bailiffs, can anyone advise on the best course of action for me to take?

    thank you very much for any help or advice you can offer.
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  • #2
    Re: Notice of Seizure

    The SO can be reasonable at times so you will need to speak to them. If any hassles ask to speak to their Director of Enforcement, Mr Badger. This appears to be their main number
    0845 688 9757

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    • #3
      Re: Notice of Seizure

      If they are in any way recalcitrant regaeding the matter a Statutory Declaration listing all goods belonging to yourselves should do the trick, are they acting as HCEO in this case or bailiffs, there are differences, What property is listed on the notice?

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      • #4
        Re: Notice of Seizure

        Originally posted by ploddertom View Post
        Director of Enforcement, Mr Badger.
        Nominative determinism? (link) :rofl:

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        • #5
          Re: Notice of Seizure

          Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
          Nominative determinism? (link) :rofl:
          Are you insinuating he actively "badgers" customers? :rofl:

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          • #6
            Re: Notice of Seizure

            Thank you, I'll try their number this morning as the 0845 number listed on the papers was a computerised message telling me to call the (invalid) mobile or email.

            I believe they're acting as HCEOs. The property listed is "all goods to satisfy judgement debt"- which would be quite a lot given the total amount is over £25,000...

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            • #7
              Re: Notice of Seizure

              Originally posted by Madsdog View Post
              Thank you, I'll try their number this morning as the 0845 number listed on the papers was a computerised message telling me to call the (invalid) mobile or email.

              I believe they're acting as HCEOs. The property listed is "all goods to satisfy judgement debt"- which would be quite a lot given the total amount is over £25,000...
              As it is a "Global Levy" and does not specify anything in particular, it may well be void, but you must ensure the HCEO is in no doubt that the named debtor is non resident and owns no goods or chattels on the premises. You may find when you inform them of this they mayl clam up and cite Data Protection, and try to enforce anyway, they would be very silly indeed to pursue in the face of a stat dec. There are other Beagles who can offer more focused advice. As it is HCEO you could tell them that Huintress Foods may apply if they persist, in removing goods, and find they have messed up scuttling to a master for protection for a botched enforcement, may not be forthcoming as Sherfarts Claire Sandbrook found out to her cost.

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              • #8
                Re: Notice of Seizure

                Regardless of what response you get over the telephone from the Sheriff's Office, I would be inclined to carry on and make a Statutory Declaration. Send that, and copies of Council Tax records (a copy of the entry in the Electoral Roll would also be good, if it shows he's not there), to the Sheriff's Office.

                Create a good, solid, paper trail. 'Assurances' given over the telephone are worthless.

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                • #9
                  Re: Notice of Seizure

                  Originally posted by enquirer View Post
                  Regardless of what response you get over the telephone from the Sheriff's Office, I would be inclined to carry on and make a Statutory Declaration. Send that, and copies of Council Tax records (a copy of the entry in the Electoral Roll would also be good, if it shows he's not there), to the Sheriff's Office.

                  Create a good, solid, paper trail. 'Assurances' given over the telephone are worthless.
                  Exactly so, give them no wriggle room, everything in a paper trail

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                  • #10
                    Re: Notice of Seizure

                    Most houses would not have 25k in goods if sold at auction so what are these idiots playing at in our front room i can see stuff that cost about 4k new second hand vlue i would say about 700 quid at it all is in first class condition

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                    • #11
                      Re: Notice of Seizure

                      Unfortunately HCEOs can magically turn a £600 debt into thousands with their fees, and charges, they are truly bailiffs on steroids.

                      The issue is you don't owe it so the aim is to send them packing with their scaly tails between their stubby rattus rattus legs

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                      • #12
                        Re: Notice of Seizure

                        Originally posted by wales01man View Post
                        what are these idiots playing at
                        A version of Silly Buggers that means they get their fees?

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                        • #13
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                          Well theier not gonna get the fees from someone who owes them nothing

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by wales01man View Post
                            Well theier not gonna get the fees from someone who owes them nothing
                            They won't let that get in the way if they can help it, after all they have the writ of fi-fa for the debtor at that address so it is imperative OP gets a stat dec in to indicate they are cruising between Jack and Carp, and Jack has left town

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                            • #15
                              Re: Notice of Seizure

                              Sorry but you are all prattling on about something you haven't a clue about.

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