Bailiff marston sent arrest warrant letter to take me into custody

[CleverClogs]

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The law does not speciffically state having phone up to ear otherewise texters would get away with it we all know its illegal to use a phone while driving if anyone gets caught and fined tough

Is it more dangerous to have a mobile telephone held to one's ear while driving - as the 'phone can be dropped if both hands are needed - than to have one's mother-in-law kvetching on the back seat or tro have a back seat occupied by brawling brats?

The first is illegal, yet the other two are likely to be equally distracting.

[wales01man]

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Has anyone been convicted of killing someone when they had a mil or kids on the back seat causing a distraction i think your trying to make a funny out of a serious situation that can arise where idiots break the law using phones whilst driving

[CleverClogs]

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Sounds very much like an HMCTS cock-up. However, it has been found that Marston bailiffs have been engaging in the practice of claiming a fine defaulter is avoiding paying the fine in order to hike up their fees. It is then found that the bailiff involved has been doing everything to obstruct and prevent the defaulter from paying the fine. It is a practice Marstons' senior management must put a stop to immediately. Any certificated bailiff who behaves in this manner and misleads the court raises serious questions as to their fitness to act as a bailiff.

That was why I asked how long ago the offence had happened.

It does seem rather odd to issue an arrest warrant over a mere £75. One might be inclined to wonder if Marstons had been given a distress warrant over 97 days ago but had failed to do anything with it other than to return it to the court after 90 days had elapsed and asked for an extension to the full 180 days, claiming that the defaulter was proving hard to find.

[CleverClogs]

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Has anyone been convicted of killing someone when they had a mil or kids on the back seat causing a distraction i think your trying to make a funny out of a serious situation that can arise where idiots break the law using phones whilst driving

No.

The other two scenarios are, IMCO, quite as dangerous as driving whilst yakking on the dog to one's chinas.

[toobusy]

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That was why I asked how long ago the offence had happened.

It does seem rather odd to issue an arrest warrant over a mere £45. One might be inclined to wonder if Marstons had been given a distress warrant over 97 days ago but had failed to do anything with it other than to return it to the court after 90 days had elapsed and asked for an extension to the full 180 days, claiming that the defaulter was proving hard to find.

this is exactly what im thinkin the scumbags at marstons have told the court they cant find me or never in when they attend or never replied to there letters which they never sent, so the court let them have a arrest warrant, total scum of the earth this s what they tried to do with my last fine when came off benefits, lied to court that was avoidin payment, hence why im defo not calling the bailiff.

will update 2morrow

thanks for ur advice

[labman]

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Any news on this? Apologies I've only just seen it.

The procedure for Magistrates' Court is very clear, and you can find it here:

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...s-Courts-Fines

[bluebottle]

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If Marstons have been less than straight with the courts, they are at risk of this affecting the renewal of their contract with HMCTS, that is, unless HMCTS decide it is far less hassle to enforce fines themselves.

[toobusy]

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these bailiffs are pure scums of the earth, ive just rang the area enforcement officer and he said there is no warrant for your arrest but a summons to court because did not reply to any letters from bailiff, absolute bullsh7t as they never sent them!

He also said there was never no mention arrest to the bailiffs but on the letter its plastered all over saying they will arrest and take me into custody. He seemed unaware of all this and the way marston have acted even though he appointed them. I even offered to email him a copy of the letter.

Now im ringing the office of the speed awareness coarse (who cant b bothered to answer there phone for last 20mins) so can send them the certificate showing completed coarse as again marston say they "never" received it

will update soon as got more info

[bluebottle]

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Get straight on to the HMCTS Area Contracts Manager. They are more senior in position than an Area Enforcement Manager. What Marstons have done is potentially serious and action needs to be taken against the bailiff who was responsible for the threat-o-gram, not only by Marston's senior management, but by the court that issued the bailiff's certificate also. This incident raises questions as to the fitness of the bailiff responsible for sending the threat-o-gram to act as a bailiff.

[CleverClogs]

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Get straight on to the HMCTS Area Contracts Manager. They are more senior in position than an Area Enforcement Manager. What Marstons have done is potentially serious and action needs to be taken against the bailiff who was responsible for the threat-o-gram, not only by Marston's senior management, but by the court that issued the bailiff's certificate also. This incident raises questions as to the fitness of the bailiff responsible for sending the threat-o-gram to act as a bailiff.

If it can be established that no arrest warrant was ever issued, mightn't it be a good idea to allow oneself to be "arrested" by that certificated clod?

The damages one could claim from Marstons might finally convince them of the folly of producing their own "warrants."

[bizzybob]

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If it can be established that no arrest warrant was ever issued, mightn't it be a good idea to allow oneself to be "arrested" by that certificated clod?

The damages one could claim from Marstons might finally convince them of the folly of producing their own "warrants."

Chances are he would back off faced with that scenario, unless he was so thick as to not realise what wrongful arrest and unlawful detention would mean to his bond, wallet and own freedom ultimately..

[toobusy]

Re: Bailiff marston sent arrest warrant letter to take me into custody

Get straight on to the HMCTS Area Contracts Manager. They are more senior in position than an Area Enforcement Manager. What Marstons have done is potentially serious and action needs to be taken against the bailiff who was responsible for the threat-o-gram, not only by Marston's senior management, but by the court that issued the bailiff's certificate also. This incident raises questions as to the fitness of the bailiff responsible for sending the threat-o-gram to act as a bailiff.

I did, he was totally unaware they way they acted but from the sound of his tone on the phone and when met him in person he couldn't really b to bothered, I think marstons must defo have it in for me, as they've been caught out twice now, i guess there must b countless people out there whom fall victim to there under hand tactics to try and get the fine money by not sendin warning letters out

absolutely shocking the way they act and get away with it, i guess thankgod to this forum i will remain on level 9+ and wll defo advise others likewise

thanks alot

[CleverClogs]

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I did, he was totally unaware they way they acted but from the sound of his tone on the phone and when met him in person he couldn't really b to bothered,

Oh, indeed.

Why do anything about Marstons having apparently usurped the power of a Court, when doing anything would mean doing some work and might even involve the contract tendering process to be re-opened?

Isn't it so much better just to pretend it did not happen?

[bluebottle]

Re: Bailiff marston sent arrest warrant letter to take me into custody

If it can be established that no arrest warrant was ever issued, mightn't it be a good idea to allow oneself to be "arrested" by that certificated clod?

The damages one could claim from Marstons might finally convince them of the folly of producing their own "warrants."

That is something that needs pursuing with HMCTS at senior management level, CC. It is, probably, a policy matter which could be changed without legislation.

[toobusy]

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Oh, indeed.

Why do anything about Marstons having apparently usurped the power of a Court, when doing anything would mean doing some work and might even involve the contract tendering process to be re-opened?

Isn't it so much better just to pretend it did not happen?

my thoughts exactly, the area officer is well aware of the way they act but refuses to know anything, absolute rubbish as its him to instructs them to collect the fine