Marstons at the door

[daggz68]

Hi. Have had marston at the door today. Not let them in. Not even my property, I rent a room. The landlady saw them and let me know they were outside. They said it was for non payment of fines, my fault entirely but have added on almost £300!
They came I think sometime very early in the year and put a letter through the letter box. I did ring the courts back then I but they said to go through them. Me being the kind of person to bury their head in the sand left it.
They are saying they can gain entry ( but not my property ) and take goods? Surely they have to know who's goods they are? Also showed them only part of my rental agreement and as it says nothing about just a room they can view the lot? That cannot be right? Only my room surely?
I got through to their office and the unhelpful woman said I cannot pay by installments. BUT out of the blue the guy at the door also said there is another fine they had let him know about and I CAN pay that one by installments. My landlady called the police but they have not turned up yet.
I have no cash or good to sell to pay the fine off at all. I do work and own a crappy car to get me there and back and pick up the kids from their mums and that is all.

What can I do? Land lady is in bits, saying I have to move out after xmas, scared they will break in to her house, I'm in no real fit state to deal with confrontation at times other than shouting etc which is no real good to anyone.
Any advice is good

[daggz68]

Re: Marstons at the door

Hi. I managed to find accommodation at the last minute. Police have been to take a statement. Waiting on them to call back at some point. Have not spoken to marston since I had a letter at old address stating they wish to have a copy of the recording. Police have the youtube link anyway.

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at what time in the video does he say that?

It was right at the start of the video that he made the curious statement, "You're a w@nker for not paying your fine."

[daggz68]

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at what time in the video does he say that?

[MissFM]

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Was it purely my imagination or did Mr M----- really opine, in vulgar language, that you are an onanist?

I thought he said banker? - but sorry it was probably much less insulting (funny way of pronouncing his w's though nevertheless....)

[pepsie]

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Refer this matter directly to the Ministry of Justice, in London. I have never read such a load of b*ll*cks from a government department, particularly, HMCTS. There is nothing contained within Rule 52, Criminal Procedures Rules 2011 (as amended) that requires a fine defaulter to deal with a bailiff. Below, is the wording of Rule 52.2 as regards Means Hearings -

Application to reduce a fine or vary payment terms
52.5.—(1) This rule applies where—
(a) no collection order is in force; and
(b) the defendant wants the court to—

(i) reduce the amount of a fine, or
(ii) vary payment terms.
(2) Unless the court otherwise directs, the defendant must—
(a) apply in writing;
(b) serve the application on the court officer; and
(c) in the application, explain—
(i) what relevant circumstances have not yet been considered by the court, and
(ii) why the fine should be reduced, or the payment terms varied.

[Note. See sections 75(534), 85(535) and 85A(536) of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980.]

You may get more sense by consulting with a solicitor at your local Law Centre, which can offer free legal advice/assistance. However, a formal complaint to the MoJ is now a must. HMCTS are 100% vicariously-liable for the actions of the bailiff involved, but do send a copy of the letter to Marstons AFTER you have sent it off to the MoJ.

Once the fine has been passed to the bailiff I am given to understand this is classed as " a collection order"..hence the parrot script directing everyone to 'deal with the bailiff'

Pepsie

[bluebottle]

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hi update. was almost homeless but found a place at last second. no internet so limited to what i can do. police turned up as i was leaving and asked me if i wanted to make a statement about marston

Bloody hell! Have your local police force finally realised that certificated bailiffs working for Marstons are taking the p*ss out of them as well as you? If it is, then the police need to be commended for waking up and smelling the coffee. Using pepper spray and tasers on the buggers a bit more might get the message home to Marstons that lying, cheating and bullying is not only unacceptable, but has consequences, too. Rather painful ones, where pepper spray and tasers are concerned.

Note: The pepper spray used by police forces is, usually, a concentrated form of chilli pepper. It ranks 2,000 on the Schofield Scale (the measure of how hot pepper is) and can incapacitate someone for up to 20 minutes.

[daggz68]

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i will be. was in middle of moving out. not telling them plus have land lady bitch false address

Re: Marstons at the door

hi update. was almost homeless but found a place at last second. no internet so limited to what i can do. police turned up as i was leaving and asked me if i wanted to make a statement about marston

And did you?

Does Marstons or their performing moron know to where you've moved?

Are you going to tell them? :rofl:

[daggz68]

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hi update. was almost homeless but found a place at last second. no internet so limited to what i can do. police turned up as i was leaving and asked me if i wanted to make a statement about marston

[bluebottle]

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What public confidence had you in mind?

I know that a lot of people are fast losing confidence in the justice system, CC, but employing morons like Marston just accelerates the decline and really takes the p*ss.

[bluebottle]

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Why only civil proceedings?

Since when was making a deliberately false allegation to the police - which is surely a case of "wasting police time" if not conspiracy to pervert the course of justice - not a criminal offence?

I checked this with CPS Legal Guidance. Making a false allegation is enough.

[ploddertom]

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What public confidence had you in mind?

Maybe should have said "convenience"

[enquirer]

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I would be pleasantly astounded if their contract was not renewed, as I expect the MoJ will allow all manner of excuses for Marston's misdeeds.

... following the receipt of a large donation to a certain political party.

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I would be pleasantly astounded if their contract was not renewed, as I expect the MoJ will allow all manner of excuses for Marston's misdeeds.

Me too.