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  • VT of Car Finance

    Looking for a bit of advice here about the best way to move forward.

    Purchased a car from Arnold Clark back in 2015.

    Due to a change in circumstances I began looking at what I would need to pay to bring me under the voluntary termination threshold and hand the car back, however upon speaking to the finance company I was informed that I was actually sold a Fixed Sum Loan Agreement and not PCP as I had originally thought.

    I don't think I can argue with the finance company, as at the end of the day they have my signature on an agreement, but I feel I should be able to argue the point with Arnold Clark. I have the original front page of the agreement, stating manufacturer PCP, giving a breakdown of payments etc. The agreement we have is financially identical but with the consumer protections removed.

    I have already taken this up with Arnold Clark, as well as the Financial Ombudsman. According the FOB, Arnold Clark have claimed that because we borrowed more than the value of the car, which as far as I can see is only because a 3 year service plan was tacked into the agreement, that we would not have been eligible for a PCP loan and therefore they have not miss sold.

    As it stands the FOB is inclined to side with Arnold Clark unless I can provide further information.

    I don't really know how to continue. As far as I'm concerned they have miss sold or at least misrepresented the deal, explaining everything in the original agreement, and at the last second having us sign something almost identical but the added protections striped out.

    To use the example I put in my complaint, it's like showing someone a standard car, but trying to sell them the same model with airbags removed, at the same price. Assuming they don't get into a crash, the two cars are functionally identical, but if you properly explain no sane person would pay the same amount for a lesser deal.
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    Re: VT of Car Finance

    The Financial Conduct Authority could be one avenue. I don't think they will investigate individual complaints but they are looking at motor finance in general. The FCA is looking at the motor finance market to ensure that it works well and to assess whether consumers are at risk of harm. Motor finance has grown rapidly in recent years, with many credit products now available. The authority is looking to develop understanding of these products, how they are sold, and to assess whether the market is functioning as well as it could.

    I found this on the FCA website - http://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-stor...-motor-finance

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    • #3
      Re: VT of Car Finance

      Have just spoken to the FCA, they're happy to note my concerns with the view of investigating, but have stated they would not get involved with the complaint procedure as is.

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      • #4
        Re: VT of Car Finance

        The FCA route will not help you at all.

        A fixed sum loan - could you post up the agreement? Normally you would then own the car from the start, it's not HP or secured at all. How much is the car worth at the moment? What is the value of the remaining payments you have to make?

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        • #5
          Re: VT of Car Finance

          Have included the agreement as requested.

          Selling privately, the car is valued at ~ £6k, with ~ £9k left to pay. That £9k, includes interest over the rest of the agreement, so if going for a settlement it may be less.
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            Re: VT of Car Finance

            For reference, the above documents is the main argument i'm having with the Ombudsman atm.

            The original sale agreement represents what was originally discussed. As there was no difference between the agreed payments and interest discussed, and being less legally minded at the time, I've naively signed the loan agreement presented. It wasn't until I've went to discuss VT, which by my calculation I would have been eligible for come December this year (or once i'm under £8090.22 left to pay), that I've discovered Arnold Clark pulling the fast one here.

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            • #7
              Re: VT of Car Finance

              So what are they suggesting for an early repayment?

              What is the rest of your financial situation like, do you have other problem debts? Do you need a car or can you manage without?

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              • #8
                Re: VT of Car Finance

                No other problem debts. This has been ongoing since April, and adjustments to lifestyle and expenses have been made already. Continuing to pay the car every month is still possible, but leaves little to no disposable income.

                Early repayment saves ~ £900 over the course of the agreement, but this is still extra money out of pocket.

                As mentioned, there is an ongoing complaint in with the Ombudsman, but at this stage it appears to be a case of "he said, she said".

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                • #9
                  Re: VT of Car Finance

                  Well getting rid of the car saves more than the car finance costs - also the insurance, servicing, car tax etc.

                  As you couldn't get out of a HP until December, by which time you would have paid another £1300). if you can get out now for £2100 down it's not clear to me that you have actually lost that much by this change. Whats the car condition & mileage like?

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                  • #10
                    Here we will educate you when you buying a car so you have the right to hand a car back then end the agreement. Here we are also talking about how to open multiple urls in one click so click on bulk url opener and know more briefly about this.

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