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  • Lowell County Court claim crisis

    Hi Everyone. I'm in a bit of a panic because this morning I received a court claim form from Lowell Solicitors. This is regarding an old Barclays overdraft from a joint account with my ex. A few years ago I got a letter saying he'd applied for bankruptcy, so I suppose I'm liable for all of the debt even though he spent the money.

    In 2009 I spoke to the CCCS who advised me to pay off this and some other debts at £1 a month. I did that for a while, but after I left my ex I stopped at some point. The spreadsheet I have shows that I paid until about October 09, but it's possible it was longer than that. In 2011 I had a mental health crisis and lost my job, the PO stubs and a spreadsheet were at work but I never went back. I was sedated on heavy meds for the next 4 years and just ignored any letters, hoping it would go away. The spreadsheet I have is the last one I emailed to myself in 09. I've applied for a credit report to find out exactly when I last paid. It could be statute barred but I can't ask them for this information without admitting to the debt. The debt has since been sold on from Sigma to Lowell.

    The claim states that I entered into a CCA 1974 regulated agreement with Sigma, that a default notice was served and not complied with (doesn't say when, I have little memory of those 4 years and apparently I didn't keep the letters. I've looked everywhere). The agreement was assigned to Lowell in December 2015 and notice was given to me. Despite repeated requests for payment I still owe about £2,500.

    They're claiming this and interest at 8%, limited to 1 year, and costs.

    I've had letters in the last few months offering to halve the outstanding amount if I respond - I thought that was because it was statute barred and they were not confident of getting it back through the court, so the letter today was a shock. I've read through a lot of the posts re Lowell on here but I'm still confused. I thought I needed to send a CPR 18 letter, but I also had a web chat with National Debtline who said it was risky to defend and I shouldn't do it.

    I could offer to pay it back at up to £10 a month, but another worry is whether they'll just take my savings. I am claiming DLA and ESA and am also a full time student. When DLA changes to PIP I'll probably lose it all, most people do, and that's my safety net to get me through the next 2 years of uni.

    I'm trying not to panic but this has really freaked me out. Any advice would be much appreciated!

    Edit: Also, if I send a CPR 18 to Lowell I will have to return the AoS before I get an answer from them. If I find out that they have a valid claim I'll have already told the court that I'm defending it, so that will make things worse!
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  • #2
    Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

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    • #3
      Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

      Hi Madrigal & welcome to LB.

      Imho, the best thing to do is acknowledge the claim per the claim pack instructions asap.
      This will give you a bit of breathing space in order to find out what the position is.
      Almost certainly Lowells will have scant info themselves, as they purchase these alleged debts in large portfolios, with little more than the barest info, usually in digital format.
      So it pays to buy yourself some time to see what 'cards' they hold or can obtain.
      Acknowledge, defend in full.
      As for jurisdiction, where do you live? (country)
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      • #4
        Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

        Also, have a read of this - http://legalbeagles.info/forums/show...it-Court-Claim
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        • #5
          Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

          Thanks Charitynjw! I will acknowledge straight away.

          On the other page you posted, it says to send a CCA request to the claimant. The woman at National Debtline I spoke to earlier said I should apply for a credit report from Experian for £2, which I've done, but when I clicked the link she sent me I lost the webchat so didn't get the chance to ask any more. She suggested that this might tell me when I defaulted, is this the same as a CCA?

          I really do think it could be statute barred by now, I'm just terrified that I may be wrong. Maybe they're doing it now because it will be soon and this is their last chance to try to get it. I don't want to just give up though.

          I'm in Kent, UK

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          • #6
            Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

            Hello Madrigal,
            Some points.

            You say the claim state " that you entered into an CCA regulated agreement with Sigma, but this is an overdraft from Barclays ???
            As far as I know Sigma is a debt collector?
            nem

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            • #7
              Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

              Hi Nemesis, the debt was originally sold to Sigma by Barclays, and I agreed to pay the £1 per month to Sigma. That was in November 2008.
              Last edited by Madrigal; 26th July 2016, 17:13:PM. Reason: Extra info

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              • #8
                Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                Originally posted by nemesis45 View Post
                Hello Madrigal,
                Some points.

                You say the claim state " that you entered into an CCA regulated agreement with Sigma, but this is an overdraft from Barclays ???
                As far as I know Sigma is a debt collector?
                nem
                Is this claim issued by Lowell Solicitors Ltd.
                Please can we see a copy of the N1 claim form this does sound rather odd ( may be of great benefit!!)

                nem

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                • #9
                  Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                  Originally posted by Madrigal View Post
                  Thanks Charitynjw! I will acknowledge straight away.

                  On the other page you posted, it says to send a CCA request to the claimant. The woman at National Debtline I spoke to earlier said I should apply for a credit report from Experian for £2, which I've done, but when I clicked the link she sent me I lost the webchat so didn't get the chance to ask any more. She suggested that this might tell me when I defaulted, is this the same as a CCA?

                  I really do think it could be statute barred by now, I'm just terrified that I may be wrong. Maybe they're doing it now because it will be soon and this is their last chance to try to get it. I don't want to just give up though.

                  I'm in Kent, UK
                  Free online credit report from Noddle.
                  Very easy to use.

                  Please don't worry /stress over this for a start their claim sound wrong!

                  If you have a problem with posting a copy I'm sure [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] a very clever member of the site team will help you.

                  nem

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                  • #10
                    Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                    If the court claim is via CCBC Northampton (they usually are), you won't be contesting jurisdiction.

                    As [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION] says (above), something doesn't seem right.

                    Are you certain it's for an o/d & not a loan or credit card?
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                    You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                    Cohen, Herb


                    There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                    gets his brain a-going.
                    Phelps, C. C.


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                    • #11
                      Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                      Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                      If the court claim is via CCBC Northampton (they usually are), you won't be contesting jurisdiction.

                      As @nemesis45 says (above), something doesn't seem right.

                      Are you certain it's for an o/d & not a loan or credit card?
                      Sigma is certainly a debt purchaser /collector I'll say no more than if Lowell Sols are on this it's definitely ODD.

                      nem

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                      • #12
                        Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                        Here's the form. It is definitely Barclays, there was a Barclaycard but it was in my ex's name for £4000. The original debt is £300 less than the amount they're claiming for.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                          Originally posted by Madrigal View Post
                          Here's the form. It is definitely Barclays, there was a Barclaycard but it was in my ex's name for £4000. The original debt is £300 less than the amount they're claiming for.
                          Great!

                          Did you have any contact with Sigma, letters /calls??
                          I think the person who drafted this is somewhat confuesed
                          nem

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                          • #14
                            Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                            I don't think I did. I've found my old list of creditors spreadsheet (there were some other debts between the two of us) and the addresses I was sending the £1 to are on it. As of August 09 we were paying directly to Barclays. The CCCS woman told me not to engage with any of them until I got a CCJ, so if it went over to Sigma I would not have agreed anything with them and continued sending the £1 to Barclays.

                            I just found Lowell's last letter and it says the original company name is Barclays Bank. No mention of Sigma.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Lowell County Court claim crisis

                              Originally posted by Madrigal View Post
                              I don't think I did. I've found my old list of creditors spreadsheet (there were some other debts between the two of us) and the addresses I was sending the £1 to are on it. As of August 09 we were paying directly to Barclays. The CCCS woman told me not to engage with any of them until I got a CCJ, so if it went over to Sigma I would not have agreed anything with them and continued sending the £1 to Barclays.

                              I just found Lowell's last letter and it says the original company name is Barclays Bank. No mention of Sigma.
                              OK I have some ideas which I want to check out, one that Barclays sold the debt to Sigma which has then failed to collect and sold it off to Lowell and Lowell Sols has mad a complete fudge of the whole thing.

                              I have some checking to do but I will get back to you tomorrow.

                              nem

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