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  • Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response help

    I have received a standard response to my claim for PPI refund from capital one that I selected the option on the internet application etc. Attachment below.

    I have drafted a response as below and would like any further advise if there is any further to add?

    In response to my letter of complaint concerning the above account, your letter of 31/05/12 explained that you were unable to find evidence of mis-selling, and that you were therefore unable to refund the PPI premiums applied because I had apparently ticked the PPI box.

    It is my belief that my complaint has not been dealt with properly and fairly under the FSA rules as provided in the Handbook on PPI Redress contained within PS 10/12 - some of which I have attached to this letter. I respectfully but firmly request that you review your earlier decision not to uphold my complaint, and that you now do so in compliance with the FSA rules. I appreciate your time and attention to the task of investigating my claim, but your rejection of my complaint appears to be based solely on your own apparent inability to find any evidence to support my complaint. This is hardly surprising, as I doubt if such evidence would now exist in your records, and if it did, I doubt that you have any incentive to look for it.

    The evidence that you seem to have ignored in your investigation is the generally accepted view that any PPI product sold in recent years is likely to have been mis-sold for a wide range of reasons - a fact borne out by the very need for PS 10/12 to be drawn up by the FSA in 2010. You have clearly made a very good effort at finding as much documentary evidence as you can to refute my claim, but as DISP. APP. 3 makes clear, most – if not all – of that evidence cannot be relied upon.

    Despite the evidence you have produced and the assertion that I ticked a ‘Yes’ box after having been presented with copious amounts of ‘small print’ is not deemed by the FSA as sufficient evidence to show that mis-selling did not take place. The fact remains that neither my options nor the ‘small print’ terms were explained to me clearly, and that I was effectively misled in the sale of this PPI. It is generally accepted that this is the most likely probability, and the onus is upon you to produce clear evidence to demonstrate otherwise. Despite what I am sure are your commendable efforts, you have failed to do this, as that evidence is conspicuous by its very absence in your correspondence.

    I therefore now invite you to review your decision, in the hope that you will be able and willing to do so within fourteen days. If the complaint cannot then be resolved satisfactorily, I will refer it to the FOS which I hope will not be necessary - bearing in mind the considerable cost of doing so, and the time and effort involved. Please also be advised that a copy of this letter has also been sent to the CEO, Mr Richard Fairbank"
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    Last edited by Lennyv; 20th June 2016, 20:44:PM. Reason: Add attachment
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  • #2
    Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

    What they seem to be saying is that you actively selected PPI rather than it being pre-ticked.

    What was the ''information that was available to you at the point of completing the online application form'' ?

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    • #3
      Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

      Question? It states you applied on line in 2002? is this the correct assumption?

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      • #4
        Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

        Hi MIKE770, yes this was an online application in 2002

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        • #5
          Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

          Originally posted by Lennyv View Post
          Hi MIKE770, yes this was an online application in 2002

          O.K. Tnks

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          • #6
            Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

            Hi MIKE770, yes this was an online application in 2002

            - - - Updated - - -

            Antony particular you ask about the year?

            - - - Updated - - -

            Hi EXC, I will post some further attachements later today
            Last edited by Lennyv; 21st June 2016, 07:42:AM. Reason: Add missing number

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            • #7
              Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

              Hi Mike770 any particular reason you asked about the year?

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              • #8
                Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                just info:- irrelevant thought as on line application just wondered.

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                • #9
                  Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                  Hi EXC, See attached other attachments from the response of Capital one. Look forward to further advise on the response drafted.
                  Attached Files

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                  • #10
                    Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                    Thanks.

                    I'm not sure what your original grounds for the complaint were but to be honest if this went to the Financial Ombudsman (which is ultimately how you should view it) I doubt it would succeed given that, at least according to the example screenshot, you had to actively indicate you wanted PPI.

                    Your draft response seems to be arguing that although you ticked the PPI box you weren't given information to make an informed decision.

                    Their response is a bit contradictory in that they say:

                    During the online application process you had access to an overview of the PPI
                    But further on it says:

                    You had access to the PPI overview details when you completed your application form
                    Having said that the screenshot does indicate that there's a link to 'more information' on the PPI that you could have clicked prior to indicating you wanted it. So all in all I think your complaint is a bit of a long shot.

                    Do you know how much PPI you paid? Given that you applied in November 2002 and cancelled the policy in April 2003 it couldn't have been much unless you had quite a large outstanding balance in that period.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                      The balance throughout was over £3000, should I not respond to Capital one and pass it straight to the Financial Ombudsman or send a final letter to Capital one?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                        Originally posted by Lennyv View Post
                        The balance throughout was over £3000, should I not respond to Capital one and pass it straight to the Financial Ombudsman or send a final letter to Capital one?
                        Been there done that wrote the review & read it, they are a waste of time, my mistake was told to me was no doubt I failed as I went to the Ombudsman in the 1st place, they only agreed a very small portion which Crap One offered and I said no as that was only 8%, BUT I should of gone straight to court with it not FOS so think what you are doing??

                        You would have to send letter to Crap One and wait for their final response (8 Weeks) then go to Ombudsman, quick look at your case = as Exec says???? think you need to be aware if you ticked then suspect equation may come into it! things on this are / have changed in time & companies have learned some of the excuses that has been given!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                          Thanks MIKE770, not sure I fully understand, but in principle I should issue my letter to Capital one as drafted for a final response ?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                            Originally posted by Lennyv View Post
                            Thanks MIKE770, not sure I fully understand, but in principle I should issue my letter to Capital one as drafted for a final response ?

                            yes then once you have the final response then decide next step if necessary!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Capital One PPI not upheld claim, standard response to web application, response

                              Thanks MIKE770 and EXC, I will post the letter and wait for the final response, have you been able to look at my other post on EGG credit cards, http://legalbeagles.info/forums/show...eded&highlight

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