Adult social serv freezing mums bank account

[Mrbullet131]

Re: Adult social serv freezing mums bank account

I live opposite mum, at no time have I said I'm unwilling to look after her never said that ever. It's like I don't exist or the SS don't want me to exist, I believe there is a conspirosy against me, and is a race as to who gets their forms into COP 1st

[enaid]

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Not meaning to sound negative, but if your mum has capacity and she has told them she does not want you involved with her care or finances then they will have to go with her wishes.
Even if that is not the case then everything they do will have to be accounted for and hopefully above board.
If they are applying for, or you are applying for a LPA then your mum will have to have capacity to sign all the papers, if your mum has already lost capacity then it will be up to the COP to appoint a deputy and they will do this with your mums best interest at the fore.

[Mrbullet131]

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She doesn't have capacity and didn't when she said she didn't trust me, the cop will have to appoint a deputy, my fear is SS will contest my application and whatever they are conspiring will sound more convincing than the truth and the judge will go in favour of SS. I spoke to cop today and asked how the judge decides be it criminal or civil law, criminal law relies on fact, civil law on probability. Depending what BS SS feed the court I'm essentially screwed

[leclerc]

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To be honest with you, I think you need to ask for adult social care to sit down and have a meeting with you. If need be, take someone with you who is a friend. Adult social care should be there to help you to help care for your mother. I know social services can be a right pain in the backside. I've not had dealing with them in regards to adult social care but I have in other areas and share a distinct distaste in my mind over them.

If need be find charities that can offer advice, for example, Dementia UK(they have a phone line that is a free phone number(I am linking you to their frequently asked questions page so number is at the top): https://www.dementiauk.org/understan...tia/questions/

Will also give you a link to Alzheimer's charity as well that may offer support as well: https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/

Mrbullet, ultimately, everyone is there to help your mum(even though perhaps they may seem like they are an hinderance rather than a help).

Good luck.

[enaid]

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Well I can only give you my opinion and as I do believe the COP will do what is in the best interest of your mum as they are supposed to do. I can not understand why you think you will be 'essentially screwed' in what way are you 'screwed' when your mum is being cared for and HER finances are being looked after by the COP?

[Mrbullet131]

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Screwed in terms of not being appointed deputy what if SS tell a pack of lies about my capability to look after mum. Remember the phone call today? How I said I want to pull out of mums care??? Still trying to figure that out, they can be devious and are being in mums case. They should have introduced themselves to me from day one and didn't, I discovered them one day, at that time mum was drinking heavily and they still took her word as gospel. They should have explained to me the situation and worked with me offering support to mum and I. I didn't know what dementure was until 12mths ago so I too needed support while I learnt to adapt to mums needs

[enaid]

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OK I agree they should have worked with you and supported you with what ever help you personally could give mum.
If they are to discredit you in any way, I am sure they would have to prove every allegation as the COP would not accept hearsay (just a phrase to explain what I mean).
Was, or is your mum in any alcohol support system? could they back you up in any way with her state of mind or actions while drinking?
I also had a massive shock learning about Dementia the hard way and trust me no one on this earth knows any where near enough to deal with all cases of it.
I would wait for the ombudsman decision, whatever that is can only help, or hinder you, but that's only my thoughts.
I would then ask for a Best of Interest meeting for your mum this would hopefully bring together everyone involved in your mums care and future.

[Mrbullet131]

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No she was a secret drinker, she's dry now one of the 1st things I did was get her off it before her brain completely turned to mush. A friend can vouch for how many vodka bottles we found. It's her own fault really for saying she didn't trust me, however SS wanted to keep me out of the picture why is what I want to know. They have forced me to go to COP which is now going to cost mum money to apply and pay an annual fee for COP to monitor me doing what I've been doing the past 12mths. Have you googled COP reviews? Doesn't inspire confidence check out opgme.org or com

[enaid]

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Confidence or not, at the present time it is all we have to protect the vulnerable against financial and other kinds of abuse.
I really think a best of interest meeting with ALL concerned should bring the answers as to the care of your mum and her finances. Get yourself an advocate if you need someone on your side but are not confident in stating your case. Info here on the Mental capacity Act http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-...-capacity.aspx

[Mrbullet131]

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The avenue is now set for me to go down, but when I come out the other end and this is back to the original Q can I then take a private prosecution against the ppl who left mum with no money for near 8 mths and SS for their underhanded tactics?

[enaid]

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As said in post 9 with info and advice from CAB it can be done, but may be expensive and very time consuming. Not that, that should put you off if you believe you are right and can back up your claims. I wish you well with this, I can understand most of where you are coming from, but it saddens me that anyone would have to take court action to get a decent outcome for someone needing care and attention. These things should be settled amicably from all corners and totally in the best interest of the person concerned well before court is ever mentioned. (all this of course unless the person is totally unsupported by anyone and legal steps mustbe taken for their own protection)

[Mrbullet131]

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My sentiments exactly 👍

[Mrbullet131]

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I forgot to mention I was also told the other day that a new SS has been appointed. I asked when and they didn't know??? Yet again they have failed to contact me. It's like they refuse to recognize that I actually exist

[ostell]

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Last year my wife had problems with Social Services when trying to help her aged aunt. SS would not communicate with my wife nor take notice about failings in care. What seemed to work wonders was a formal complaint to the Care Quality Commission about the service received. They actually started talking to us and keeping us informed.

Worth a try. www.cqc.org.uk/

[Mrbullet131]

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Well update time, the GP found Lacuna Infarts 6 yrs before diagnosing mum with vascular dementia and on both occasions failed to inform the family, I obtained a copy of the overwhelming evidence required to remove me as mums appointee, it is nothing but allegations. I am complaining to the NHS, ICE, LGO and now the IPCC as the police attended a protection meeting where it was decided I was guilty of fraudulent money activity, yet they never arrested or questioned me even though I was guilty enough to remove me as mum appointee. They are also refusing to investigate the abuse of position and DWP fraud committed by SS. The family had 8yrs to date to sort out mums finances if we would have been told in 2008 of the lacuna infarts which are the onset of dementia more important than that is mum could have had treatment to slow the condition dowm and we may have still had her, so the GP, SS and police failed to have any contact with our family and only for the fact I discovered them in mums house by chance who knows what they would have done. Mum is now sectioned under sec3 and will be receiving care under sec117 after care. What really makes me angry is (1) I WAS NEVER GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND MYSELF AGAINST THE ALLEGATIONS (2) MUM COULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TREATMENT SINCE 2008 (3) THE GP LET ME MAKE AN APPOINTMENT SOME 16 MTHS AFTER DIAGNOSING MUM WITH VASCULAR DEMENTIA AND HAD THE CHEEK TO LOOK ME IN THE FACE AND TELL ME SHE DIDN'T HAVE CAPACITY, WHEN SHE FAILED TO NOTIFY ME OF THE DIAGNOSIS SOMETHING REQUIRED BY LAW. WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE!!