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  • Builder Dispute

    Cowboy builder had sent me a claims letter through his insurance about a year ago after I had terminated his work due to prolonged delay and shoddy workmanship. I responded to the letter in a detailed point by point manner by refuting every claim with evidence of timely payment to every job phase completion demand of the builder. And I had clearly demonstrated that there was no amount due on my part.Instead the builder owed me money in the final financial calculation. Additionally he operated both as a sole trader and a company and required his dues to be paid both in his personal and company accounts. He signed the contract with me as an individual but later sent me legal letter as a company.
    I also highlighted how he went on a holiday on a sudden short notice leaving my property unguarded and in a shambolic condition. Every part of my argument was supported by evidence of invoice payment, correspondences received and sent, etc.
    Then there was no response from his solicitor for around a year. When i had inquired in the interim the builder's solicitor wrote that they were in the process of receiving instructions from their client. After about a year the builder's solicitor sent me a response cleverly avoiding any mention of my detailed response to the money claims amount paid to his client . The solicitor mentioned a new point of "omitted invoices", and alleging instead that i am delaying the process.Also on the health and safety point that they compromised on my worksite they told me to produce an independent third party report although i had provided date, time stamped real time images taken at the work site in my first response.
    They kept me at tenterhooks for this long and wanted me to respond within 14 days.
    My home insurance declined to take up my case as the cowboy builder's company has no assets.
    The stress was crazy on me.

    Updated
    So its been close to 2 years now and the to and fro communication is on. The insurance that the builder had shown me clearly had 'no contractual dispute covered' mentioned. But now his solicitor claims he has updated insurance which they are refusing to show me inspite of me seeking disclosure. I have continued to respond using evidence, dated photos and counter arguing on the itemized breakdown that the builder had provided . I clearly displayed how all payments were already made on the progress he had completed on my property but he is claiming more than 90% progress. I showed clearly the before and after images of the state he had left my property in and how my property now looks on completing. I questioned how he could claim 90% progress by sharing the additional cost, time and effort it took me to bring my property at the present condition.I clearly pointed at the insurance error as also the incomplete works, shoddy workmanship and the health safety mess of my property sote that they made. They are continuing to display aggressive posturing, side stepping and denial in most of their letters.

    In my latest correspondence I have also offered an amount for settlement as goodwill gesture or as an alternative an arbritration offer.
    I wish to know what could i anticipate in future and what could be my strategic options to protect my interests?
    Note: My insuance company turned down my claim to offer legal help as they felt they could not recover costs from the builder's company.
    I am fighting on my own as a layperson while the builder has insurance.
    Thanks
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  • #2
    If you receive a court claim via the court and solicitor, you should seriously consider making a counterclaim which should follow on from your defence.
    It sounds as if you have plenty of evidence (which should be retained either until your witness statement or you directed to disclose it)

    How much money is the builder claiming?

    Approximately how much money do you think the builder owes you for breach of contract?

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    • #3
      Thank you.
      The total dispute is around 25k. I
      was wondering if it makes financial sense to counterclaim since i have no insurance support. My insurance company declined my case citing that it was not financially worthwhile for them to pursue the case as the builder is a one pound company and they could not recover costs.
      Its been close to two years that i have been defending my claim on my own to counter the builder's solicitor's often strong and aggressively worded letters?
      i did offer a goodwill gesture amount to settle and alternatively offer them the arbitration route.
      They are yet to respond.
      I wish to remain prepared and am wondering what my next best strategy could be. Also can they go to court by simply rejecting my offer of resolution and not informing me? Or are
      they attempting to exert pressure through such strong worded communication?
      Its been close to two years of such communication from them.
      Thanks

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      • #4
        IMO definitely worth counterclaiming. If you consider and can show the builder failed to provide reasonable care and skill then the judge may decide the builder breached the contract
        Your witness statement and evidence for you defence will constitute the bulk of your counterclaim
        There is pre-action protocol for construction and engineering disputes which the solicitor should follow. This document can be read at www.justice.gov.uk

        Solicitor's letters are not cheap and I wonder who is funding them. I doubt the insurance company has agreed to pay for so many pre-action letters

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        • #5
          Thanks
          They claim to have insurance to defend the contractual dispute. At the time of contract the builder showed me his insurance that clearly mentioned 'contractual disputes not covered'.
          When i requested his solicitor to show me the insurance documentation on the basis of which they were sending me letters they bypassed my request claiming they are not required to show me the "updated insurance'.
          Also letters were sent to me by the builder's company whereas he entered into contract with me as an individual and the insurance he had shown me then was in his personal name.
          Whenever i have sought a disclosure or explanation of the duality they have mentioned that it is of no consequence whether the papers are in his name or the company's. They insist it means one and the same entity.
          They have always souggt to shift the burden of proof on me whether it was the health and safety compromise the builder made on my property or the percentage of progress he claims to have attained.

          I am now kept wondering whether the updated insurance he claims to have is at all genuine? Are they merely attempting to intimidate me by writing such strong letters for close to 2 years now. All my queries for disclosure in this regard have been sidestepped by them.
          Definitely stressful for me but the battle of nerves
          continues.

          Thank you

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          • #6
            You can only wait to see if the builder takes the dispute further starting a court claim.
            Do you think the solicitor is complying with pre-action protocol?

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            • #7
              their very first letter attached a debt recovery form and there was no mention of offer of ADR (alternate dispute resolution)

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              • #8
                In your thread you stated the solicitor mentioned the builder now had updated insurance.

                It is possible the builder has taken out builders professional indemnity insurance. This type of insurance kicks in when a claim is made against the builder and would cover negligence, poor design, faulty workmanship. The insurance may also cover new claims for historical contracts.

                The solicitor may be trying to wind you up so that you start a court claim. The insurance should cover his legal fees and any court award

                If the solicitor was confident of winning in court, he would have advised his client to start the court claim by now

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                • #9
                  Thank you. This is very helpful. Much appreciated.

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                  • #10
                    So I had sent across part 36 offer with a 21 days settlement period...within a week they called (not written) on a without prejudice basis to mention they are ready to acceot settlement but not of the amount that i offered but want a much higher figure. Also i had alternatively suggested arbitration as ADR in my offer as it provides an enforceable decision....however they mentioned in the call that they want to go mediation.They dont want arbitration

                    They hv not responded in writing as yet to my part 36 offer (which will expire soon)
                    My question is if case proceeds to court in future

                    1) What is the legal validity of such a without prejudice phone call?

                    2) Under the CPR what should i be aware of to protect my legal position in future.


                    Thank you


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                    • #11
                      any insights please..would be very helpful

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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          Try suggesting adjudication. Less formal than arbitration but more suitable than mediation for this dispute

                          Cpr doesn't kick in properly until the court claim starts

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                          • #14
                            Thank you but my focus is


                            1) What is the legal validity of such a without prejudice phone call?They have not replied in written.

                            2) Under the CPR what should i be aware of to protect my legal position in future. I am keen on enforceable arbitration as ADR.

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                            • #15
                              Without prejudice conversation in court procedures and rules is the same as correspondence marked without prejudice

                              A party cannot be forced to participate in arbitration

                              An adjudicator's decision is binding and enforceable

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