EA fees and Councils and FOI's discussion

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Nope, not one of the 'What do they know' enquiries - that's not me. The reply is from Mansfield. Like I say, I have 17 more, and they are dropping into my inbox most days.

[Amethyst]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

I have 17 more.

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Re: Help with Newlyn please

Sorry can't open it, on my tablet.
If it is one of this the ones I have seen, they are mostly the result of more interpretation and wishful thinking.
I don't intend going through all this again when it only seems to be you that is unwilling or unable to understand.

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

I have 17 more.

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Don't start being silly now. These FoIs are dealing solely with payments made direct to the council. Of those responded (24 now), 18 have said they do not pass on any fees (or credit bailiff accounts if you prefer), 5 do (with 1 unsure as to why they do) and 1 refused to say. So 78% pass no fees to the bailiff.

The only foi I have seen regarding dispersement of proceeds paid direct to the authority whilst the enforcement's was in the hands of the ea confirm unequivocally that the fees are passed to the bailiff ?

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

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Incidentally if we are talking about authorities crediting bailiffs a accounts with the fees due, then they always do.
I thought you were referring to your foi regarding fees and aoe.

Don't start being silly now. These FoIs are dealing solely with payments made direct to the council. Of those responded (24 now), 18 have said they do not pass on any fees (or credit bailiff accounts if you prefer), 5 do (with 1 unsure as to why they do) and 1 refused to say. So 78% pass no fees to the bailiff.

Re: Help with Newlyn please

My posts are about how things are now. Why do you assert that is an 'old regime'?

I said that some authorities will not have even updated their operating procedures yet. You seem to be making a simple point very difficult.

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Of the replies I've had (22), 16 don't pass on fees, 5 do and 1 refused to say. Of those that do pass on fees, 1 wasn't able to tell why they do so.

EDIT - just checked my emails, it is now 17 that don't pass on fees. So of the one's who have replied so far, 77% don't pass on fees.

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Incidentally if we are talking about authorities crediting bailiffs a accounts with the fees due, then they always do.
I thought you were referring to your foi regarding fees and aoe.

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Well in your last post for instance ?

My posts are about how things are now. Why do you assert that is an 'old regime'?

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

I've just an interesting reply. The council don't add fees (18 now), but guess where they take their training and advice from? Rossendale's and Bristow/Sutor. That did surprise me. Could it be that there's been an opposite assumption in that council's who take their training from EA companies are going to ensure as many fees as possible?

Could it be that those who train in-house who the one's passing on fees, and the EA trained ones have been advised 'correctly'?

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Seen where?

Well in your last post for instance ?

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

As seen many authorities are unsure about how to apply the new regime some are still applying the old one.

Seen where?

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Why is it a pointless exercise?

Well each authority will give its own insdividual view of the procedure. Later this year when the moj issues its guidelines this will all change and a uniform procedure will be adopted. As seen many authorities are unsure about how to apply the new regime some are still applying the old one.

[Big Al]

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Why is it a pointless exercise?

Re: Help with Newlyn please

Yes it is a bit of a pointless excersise I have come to realise. What we need to know is the statutory proceedure, this will not be clear until at least the first review in April and the issuance of the guidelines to the authorities some time after.