Ding Dong the Witch is Dead

[gravytrain]

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I would hope we are talking at cross purposes here.
I cant believe that anyone would think that planting a bomb in a public place would be OK under any circumstances.

[CleverClogs]

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I think it was idiot at Brighton that the plural idiots.

I'd contend that "idiots" was correct, as they'd surely have used a two man team - one to plant the device (presumably made by someone else) and another person to stand guard.

Another idiot was the person who commissioned the bombing, as he should have known it would have taken more than one device to collapse the whole hotel.

I do not condone the murder or maiming of people - it was a just a retort to jon saying that he would miss the late harpy.

[CleverClogs]

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Just got a call from my wife who was running in the Boston Marathon.

She said they had a blast and she can't feel her legs.

Glad to hear she's having a good day.

How much does she usually drink before she's legless?

[FlamingParrot]

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I would hope we are talking at cross purposes here.
I cant believe that anyone would think that planting a bomb in a public place would be OK under any circumstances.

No, it would NEVER be OK under ANY circumstances, there are other ways to settle disputes. Bombs don't achieve anything positive, they just kill and injure innocent people who have nothing to do with any issues the bombers may have.

[leclerc]

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I would hope we are talking at cross purposes here.
I cant believe that anyone would think that planting a bomb in a public place would be OK under any circumstances.

I am saying that the motives of those planting the bombs can be understood whether or not we agree with that as a method to bring about change.

[Sapphire]

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As someone who was affected directly by the IRA bomb in Doclands, yes I lost my home, my business and my car because of it, I feel I am more than qualified to comment and its this....

No one, but no one has the right to plant bombs and blow anyone up, I don't care if they are whatever race or religion, no one has that right.

[leclerc]

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Saffy, the point I have made is that I understand why someone might do that but it does not necessarily mean that it will help in the cause that the person is advocating.

[Sapphire]

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Absolutely right, but you try getting that into the heads of the people making and planting the bombs.

[gravytrain]

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As someone who was affected directly by the IRA bomb in Doclands, yes I lost my home, my business and my car because of it, I feel I am more than qualified to comment and its this....

No one, but no one has the right to plant bombs and blow anyone up, I don't care if they are whatever race or religion, no one has that right.

Absolutely unconditionally and unarguably correct.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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100% behind Sapphy, as someone who cleared up after the buggers (ex British Rail staff, cleared up after a few "terrorist situations") to joke about the after effects of a bomb is horrific, even to suggest you would have "Got the job done".. no, not funny in the slightest.

VERY offensive IMO, I know she was hated but thats bang out of order

[jon1965]

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Cloggy is big enough and ugly enough to defend himself but I did not read it at all that he was condoning the brighton bomb. He did say that as a bomb plot it was badly executed as it completely missed its target.

[CleverClogs]

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Bombs don't achieve anything positive

In Manchester, the bomb wrecked the appalling Arndale Centre.

The rebuilt version was much better.

However, it was not a "crime against property" but a deliberate attempt to kill and maim as many people as possible. The bomb had been timed to detonate when Manchester centre was at its busiest. The death toll could easily have been many times greater.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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I was, of all places, the front row of a Take That concert when that was announced.
I can clearly and vividly remember them sitting on the stage shell shocked, then one, Jason I believe, put his head in his hands had broke down, I mean he wept.

The idea of joking about the fact that a planned bombing "went wrong", well it gives me the shivers.

Its a little known fact that the emergency alarm at Paddington Station and the ones on the assisted crossings in Birmingham are the same, hence this (at the time) weary, tired and highly security concious 21 year old (at the time) hitting the deck and assuming the fetal position for fear of the "explosion" I was awaiting blowing my head off.. but that is another story.

[CleverClogs]

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Cloggy is big enough and ugly enough to defend himself but I did not read it at all that he was condoning the brighton bomb. He did say that as a bomb plot it was badly executed as it completely missed its target.

Narrowly missed its target, actually; two or three bombs would have done the job.

As a means to secure peace in Ulster, it failed completely. The civil rights movement (from which "The Troubles" had arisen) had largely secured the rights of the populace. What remained was a lawless, sectarian and tribal squabble being fought by gunmen and terrorists on both sides. Even if the Brighton bomb had slaughtered Thatcher and her entire cabinet, one must surely doubt that events in Ulster would have taken a different course.

(And just how can someone claim to be a "loyalist" when he supports terror?)

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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your guess my dear is as good as mine.

All I can say about the IRA is, the Irish don't want em.

I am 2nd generation Irish Immigrant, (granddad, dad and 1st ever love all Irish) and I clearly remember my granddad telling me, the IRA stands for Idiot Related Atrocity!

I was in a pub in North London and a hat was passed round for the Cause, and myself and Aiden took great pleasure in throwing it the length of the pub, and leaving.

Let the dirt get their money from the dirt, where it belongs.