Products that are Pure rather than full of chemicals/tested on animals

Hi everyone, I was just looking at chatbox and noticed that Tuttsi was talking about chemicals in lipsticks, well..... I have a young girls working for me now who is a Vegan, and over the last few weeks she has opened my eyes up to the amount of things that go into our everyday products plus the amount of cruelty against animals in the testing etc of these products, so I thought I'd start a thread in here, here's a link below, you can search your favourites and find out if they are 'safe' or not, I was amazed how many products I have in my house that do not meet the criteria.

http://www.gocrueltyfree.org/shopper

I know a lot of people are on a tight budget, but with a little consideration you can find good value products or cosmetics at a reasonable price. For instance I've changed from mincemeat from the butcher to vegetarian mince, usually the supermarkets own brand, soak it first in boiling water, drain it and use as normal, its lovely.
Because I have 'awkward' skin I have used some of the Liz Earle products for a long time, their cleanser is excellent, I'm not sure about some of their other products as I don't really like the smell, so am going to look for better.
Mally (online at QVC.com) is an excellent make-up brand, its true it is bulletproof and doesn't come off till you want it too.
One problem is that Liz Earle although pure and with the leaping bunny award, has been sold to Avon who do test on animals so therefore will have harsh chemicals, so although doing good, it would be nice for Avon to get the leaping bunny award.

Please don't worry about me, I'm not turning into a tree hugging, leaf eating veggie, I'm just being careful as to what I am using and of course some meat products too, yes I still love a good steak etc.

So over to you all lets hear what differences you would like to make ?

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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1: compulsary free range chickens/eggs
2: organic food to be the same price/cheaper than the non-organic alternatives
3: The abolution of dredgers (save our oceans)

more later

[Sapphire]

Re: Products that are Pure rather than full of chemicals/tested on animals

What do you actually do in your own home/life etc ?

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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OH!

Ok, if you check your meat packaging you will see if it meets the RSPCA standards for animal welfare. I only buy non animal tested make-up, ASDA do totally animal friendly toiletries cheap

I have very high principles, and on principle I refuse to buy Rimmel make up (don't like their choice of model).

If I have any spare money with which to spoil myself, its either Body shop or Lush.

If I can avoid chemicals I will, windows get a mix of newspaper and vinegar I use beeswax on the table.. stove and the loo and things get the harsh chemical.. gotta be done unfortunatly.

[Sapphire]

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Yep I'm with you on the Rimmel one, I can't for the life of me understand how people can look up to Kate Moss, or any other drug fueled 'cele' imo.

I won't eat Lamb out of principal, its that Halal killing that I'm against.

Marks and Sparks and Sainsbury's products are all 'friendly' too, apparently, just check the link.

Together we can make a difference eh :tinysmile_grin_t:

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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With me, the Kate Moss thing is, she was found stoned in charge of her kids, and nothing was done about it!
I also avoid films with Lindsay Lohan in them (dont drink and drive people).

Another place to think of is the Co-op as they only stock Fairtrade stuff, and if I'm right they don't have animal testing at all.

[Magrew]

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I agree with the cause but, being male, I never check the fine detail of what I am buying. I often go through the "DOH" moments when my better half points out my lack of care/observation.

They need idiot proof shops/labelling to allow us less able shoppers (men) to participate. It's not that we are lazy or don't care, it's just that we are predisposed to hunt and gather. We focus on quantity not quality. My failure in this area means I am rarely let loose in the supermarket, I am apparently a liability and the reason why the world is in the state it is in.


That is a heavy burden to bear.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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for your ease hun

GOOD shops

Lush	Lush are the only exception here, they do not operate a FCOD, but they only purchase ingredients from suppliers who have no connection to animal testing
	Aldi	own brand toiletries and household cleaning products
	Argos	own brand toiletries
	Co-op	all own brand products
	Marks & Spencer	own brand make-up/toiletries and household products
	Next	own brand make-up/toiletries
	Nisa Todays	all own brands
	Sainsbury’s	own brand toiletries only
	Somerfield	own brand toiletries only
	Superdrug	own brands
	Tesco	all own brands
	Waitrose	own brand toiletries only

BAD list

COMPANIES TO BOYCOTT
Avon Cosmetics	Jeyes
Beiersdorf	Johnson & Johnson
The Body Shop/L’Oreal+	Lancome
Chanel	Lever Fabergé
Christion Dior	L’Oreal/Nestlé
Clinique	Miners Cosmetics
Colgate Palmolive	PZ Cussons
Coty	Reckitt Benckiser
Ecover*	Revlon
Estée Lauder	SC Johnson
****	Virgin Vie
Garnier	Yardley
Givenchy	Yves Saint Laurent
GlaxoSmithKline	Unilever
Helena Rubenstein

+ The Body Shop are now owned by L’Oreal/Nestlé.

[Magrew]

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Thank god I don't do the cosmetics and toiletries shopping, I never knew there were so many miines in the minefield.

See before I had to move to Auld Reekie I raised my own chickens, grew my own vegetables and only ate meat from farms who I personally knew the farmer, shellfish came directly from the inshore creelers who hauled them in their small boats. I would never eat trawler caught fish, only line caught and apart from the odd chippy I never ate in fast food joints.

That sounds idealist but it was actually idyllic, I was lucky it was very easy to do that in Orkney. Now that I am in "civilisation" it is impossible to do the same unless I was living on Elton John's pocket money.

By the way I never ate the chickens only the eggs but that was because I was a soft touch and each hen had a name (complete with brass name tag). Believe it or not some were rescue chickens that had come from an educational farm that my mother was curator on. I had such a bond with the chickens that I had trained one to "sit", walk up the handle of a shovel on command, sit on my shoulder like a parrot and she was so trusting I could pass her around the children with no flapping of wings.

I do like eating chicken, but not chicken with a name and a personality.

[Sapphire]

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All 'PETA' approved products have a picture of a leaping bunny on the packaging, its amazing how helpful that can be when buying toiletries, cleaning materials etc, plus don't forget you can google before you go looking for your next shower gel etc. I've been through my cupboards and now have a list of those that are good and the bad, I am finishing off the bad and will only buy the good in future, a lot of my favourites are good so thats great for me.

[Magrew]

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By the way I never ate the chickens only the eggs but that was because I was a soft touch and each hen had a name (complete with brass name tag).

I will just pre-empt the obvious question. Their names were

Miriam and Van der Valk - These were my first two, dutch gold bantams which I raised from eggs. A hen and cockerel pair pure bred later to become prize winners. I only showed them once because after that experience I could not put them in the cage for a full day, it seemed cruel because they roamed the garden at home (almost half an acre)
Olivia - de Heniland obviously
Henrietta - predictable
Beatrice - her eggs made very good omlettes (see what I did there?)
Guiness 1 and 2 - They were black and tan
Little Blue - she layed pale blue eggs
Powder puff - she looked like that wee fluffy thing that women powder their faces with
Satan's raptoid - this one looked like one of those scarey imaginary animals that you sometimes see in horror B-movies. It was an astrolope.
Emily - she struggled with the grain because she had a blunt beak (see Emily Blunt, these names didn't just happen)
and finally
****ey - for some reason she never had a clean bum.

Believe it or not I was a single male when I acquired and named this flock.


Now getting back to Sapphie's point.


These chickens experienced no stress, they were allowed to roam within the confines of the garden, they only got natural grain and whatever they scraped out of the garden including fresh greens and peelings. They had access to broken oyster shell for calcium and their eggs were out of this world. Almost every one laid an egg a day.


I had a very egg focussed diet but due to the versatility of an egg I found I was very healthy on that. Now I buy eggs, they have next to no flavour, colour or consistency and I only buy free range. To get the best quality the animals have to be treated well, that is true for all farming.
Now I may eat 2 or 3 eggs a week, before I would have at least that a day.

So I definitely agree animal welfare makes all the difference to the quality of the food you consume.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

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My ex is a canadian, born and bred on a farm in the back end of nowhere, he used to buy stuff like eggs and say "they are a funny colour!" or "that steak is dyed! real steak is dark!"

I'm in the happy situation where I get on very well with my exes, and I still get on with his mum who still lives in Canada, I call her Mummy H. She always said to me, be good to your animals and it will show in your produce. I've got some home raised honey from her somewhere and its amber!

She tells me all the natural remedies, like did you know that grating lemon peel (or any other citrus fruit) and putting it in water, and laying the bowl on the radiators saves a fortune on air fresheners, and if your lucky enough to have an open fire (I dunno why but I have it in my mind this will apply to Bill) throw a pine cone on it! it smells amazing!!

And did you also know if you have a gum boil, chuck the Bonjello out the window and get some clove or liquorice oils and put on a clean (cotton not paper) hanky, then apply to the painful area.

I also make my own perfume (REALLY easy) you get some iced water, rose petals, or lavender, and leave them to seep. Drain through muslin and you have floral water (which can also be put in the iron and scent your clothes!)

[TUTTSI]

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Todays article in the Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-problems.html regarding what goes into lipsticks. I am going to write to my favourite lipstick companies and ask them for a breakdown of what chemicals are used and if lead is in the lipsticks. How do we know that most of our illnesses come from these sort of products which some people use a lot daily. I was appauled when I read about thsi tbvh and should like cigarettes come with a health warning. l'oreal came out aparently the worst on a certain colour.

[Sapphire]

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As well as doing that why not consider changing to a product that is not tested on animals, that way you'll make sure that none of the offending chemicals are in your lippy.