I think my house is haunted!? Advice please x

[Celestine]

Hi all

off topic just a bit!

My house is doing weird things........

Central heating comes on in the night even though the settings are switched to only come on if temperature drops to 5 degrees. Yes, I know it's been chilly, but it never genuinely goes below 12 degrees.

Kettle has a switch underneath to 'switch on' a whistling sound when boiling. I keep this switched off yet it is repeatedly returned to ON.

Tapping noises on skirting boards in middle of night.

Cafetiere full of grounds and coffee 'jumped' into sink from 2' away whilst I was out of kitchen for 1 minute.

Lid to kettle 'jumped' into sink of water from 2' away, but had to shear itself off a plastic hinge to do so. Lid to kettle was virtually welded on as I rarely opened it, choosing to fill through spout usually.

I've just taken some pics for Ebay sales and the pics have 1 or 2 'orbs' floating around in several of them.

Feeling bit jumpy!

Who do I call????!!

[Bill-K]

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did you hear that????

LOL - Like I said - uncluttered by intellect.

Now get your drink of water and go back to bed, SWOS !!!

It was me....breaking wind. Sorry.

[strangewayofsavin]

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did you hear that????

[Bill-K]

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Personally i think much of this is down to the workings of the old grey matter.

I've chatted with Peter off-forum recently, and known of some of his physical hardships, but was unaware of that particular episode. Good of you to share it Peter, thank you. I believe the near-death experience of the 'tunnel of light' (like the one which beckoned Patrick Swayze in "Ghost" - and to which he eventually was drawn) is believed by many to me nothing more than the multiple firing of brain-cells in a kind of 'death-throe.' Makes sense to me, too.

Fascinating thing about this is the fact that everyone has an opinion but none can be proven right or wrong.

Yeah - the proof lies on the opposite bank of the Styx, it seems. All we can do is form our own judgement based on what we consider to be the balance of probablility - hence the different beliefs we all have sometimes.

[Bill-K]

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"hear that Bill"?

...When we lived there, whatever it was it did not harm us, but our dog used to go crazy.

LOL - thank you Di - you're all very kind, considering I DO go off on one when I've had a bit of a drink, I must admit !!!

Indeed, Di - animals and children seem to be sensitive to this stuff more so than the rest of us critters. My own theory is that their minds/brains are uncluttered with all the intellectual stuff we acquire as we go through life.

[Bill-K]

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...I do however have problems with the belief that personality survives death, i have witnessed it change diminish and dissapear in the living so many times.

This has bothered me over the years, in trying to reconcile my earlier Christian learning with my newer - less 'romantic' beliefs. I eventually managed, with very little research but a bit of mental wrestling, to come up with "The Meaning of THIS Life - according to Bill."

In answer to Peter's doubt - I agree. It's hard to envisage someone who has been severely autistic, or suffered latter-years dementia, carrying on as that person in the 'hereafter.' My view is that the ONLY thing we are here to acquire is the experience of what it is like to live in a place like this - where good and evil are engaged in constant battle. OK., going off-topic, I guess - but as this is the Lamp-post, I hope it can be forgiven.

Off at another tangent - but still connected. 21st December, 2012 marks the end of the Mayan calendar. Is this the end of time - or do we just dance in the fountains of Trafalgar Square at midnight, and cheer as a new Mayan calendar begins with day 1.0000.0000.0001 ?

...I suspect and believe we know and understand only a tiny fraction of what there really is to know about ourselves, particularly when it comes to areas like the brain. When it comes to the universe, space, even as we understand it now, is uncomprehendable.

Those books reveal facts that one would never come across without taking a serious interest in these sort of matters. The pineal gland in the brain - it's not there for nothing, but almost nothing is known about it. It appears to account for much of the understanding, or lack of understanding, of these phenomena in people though.

Going off on one again, I believe the brain is THE link to our 'REAL' selves (our souls, if that makes better sense). As such, I consider it to be like a piece of alien technology - and just as incomprehensible.

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I wonder - andrenalin or DMT?

There is certainly no doubt that the hallucinations are very real to the person experiencing them.

I have to reiterate what Di said Peter - I'd no idea you'd been through all that, I'm very sorry, but glad you've pulled through and are contributing so purposefully in many areas to help others. :tinysmile_grin_t:

[di30]

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Yes i had the zombie thing also, very scary particularily when you are totally immobile due to anesthesia, i was fortunate enough to come through it but spent a further 3 months in HD , i still get flashbacks now to the scenes created by my hallucinations.

Sorry going way off topic

Peter

Sorry to hear what you been through and still going through, must be difficult for you. Blimey you've been through it!

Hope these bad flashback disappear soon.

Hey no worries, it's still more or less related to the subject .

Di
x

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Hi Peter

Totally agree.

I've known others to say the same thing, even though I no longer have my dad, but even he used to say about the things he used to see being in that position in hospital, mind playing tricks etc...also from meds given and so on.
I once remember him saying about all these black cats were staring down at him from the hospital ceiling, and that the staff were zombies, that was definately medically/meds related.
He unfortunately got worked right up the one night and the hospital had rang because dad was trying to get all other patients out of their beds saying that the staff were really zombies and vampires, he got most of them believing him too, as I assume the main of them were given meds which could unsettle and make them believe anything.

But yes I must agree with you.

Yes i had the zombie thing also, very scary particularily when you are totally immobile due to anesthesia, i was fortunate enough to come through it but spent a further 3 months in HD , i still get flashbacks now to the scenes created by my hallucinations.

Sorry going way off topic

Peter

[di30]

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HI

Fascinating thing about this is the fact that everyone has an opinion but none can be proven right or wrong.

Personally i think much of this is down to the workings of the old grey matter.

In 2008 i was in intensive care for about two weeks most of it in an induced coma, you would not believe the detail and complexity of the hallusinations your brain creates, all perfectly real and integrated with reallity in a way that you do not know where one begins and the other ends.
You would wonder why your mind would do this to you.
One of the Phscs told me that it was a primative survival response in that the increse in adrenalin and other natural hormones produced by the brain when under stress aids the fight or flight mechanism.

Peter

Hi Peter

Totally agree.

I've known others to say the same thing, even though I no longer have my dad, but even he used to say about the things he used to see being in that position in hospital, mind playing tricks etc...also from meds given and so on.
I once remember him saying about all these black cats were staring down at him from the hospital ceiling, and that the staff were zombies, that was definately medically/meds related.
He unfortunately got worked right up the one night and the hospital had rang because dad was trying to get all other patients out of their beds saying that the staff were really zombies and vampires, he got most of them believing him too, as I assume the main of them were given meds which could unsettle and make them believe anything.

But yes I must agree with you.

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Interesting read above folks and yes I totally agree, as you would have to also see the evidence yourself to know what to believe as well.

Bill, yes he would make a fantastic Author, "hear that Bill"? amazing and says it as it is. I love following his posts lol.

Anyway, as in my first post I did mention about being brought up in a large house (due to large family) and we did literally experience things and actually seen and heard things with our own eyes.
When we moved (when I was a teenager), we understand a few families that moved in & out over the years after us also experienced strange going on's, and were also told they had to have a priest, not that it made any difference.

When we lived there, whatever it was it did not harm us, but our dog used to go crazy. I did used to see a lady in a long white dress and was not the only one either, she was just there.

I will mention another experience below, but its not a thing everyone will believe, fair enough, but this is what we did see happen.

One of my older sisters and I woke to see our younger sister standing by the bedroom door, but as there were 3 of us sleeping in the same room that night, she appeared to be in bed at the same time, now we both seen this exactly the same time, it is unexplainable, but she was there literally staring back at us!

I could go on, but it will take forever lol.

However, when I hear rattles, creeks etc even now, I think nothing of it, and do not always think its anything spiritual.

HI

Fascinating thing about this is the fact that everyone has an opinion but none can be proven right or wrong.

Personally i think much of this is down to the workings of the old grey matter.

In 2008 i was in intensive care for about two weeks most of it in an induced coma, you would not believe the detail and complexity of the hallusinations your brain creates, all perfectly real and integrated with reallity in a way that you do not know where one begins and the other ends.
You would wonder why your mind would do this to you.
One of the Phscs told me that it was a primative survival response in that the increse in adrenalin and other natural hormones produced by the brain when under stress aids the fight or flight mechanism.

Peter

[di30]

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Interesting read above folks and yes I totally agree, as you would have to also see the evidence yourself to know what to believe as well.

Bill, yes he would make a fantastic Author, "hear that Bill"? amazing and says it as it is. I love following his posts lol.

Anyway, as in my first post I did mention about being brought up in a large house (due to large family) and we did literally experience things and actually seen and heard things with our own eyes.
When we moved (when I was a teenager), we understand a few families that moved in & out over the years after us also experienced strange going on's, and were also told they had to have a priest, not that it made any difference.

When we lived there, whatever it was it did not harm us, but our dog used to go crazy. I did used to see a lady in a long white dress and was not the only one either, she was just there.

I will mention another experience below, but its not a thing everyone will believe, fair enough, but this is what we did see happen.

One of my older sisters and I woke to see our younger sister standing by the bedroom door, but as there were 3 of us sleeping in the same room that night, she appeared to be in bed at the same time, now we both seen this exactly the same time, it is unexplainable, but she was there literally staring back at us!

I could go on, but it will take forever lol.

However, when I hear rattles, creeks etc even now, I think nothing of it, and do not always think its anything spiritual.

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I agree Peter, I always enjoy the way Bill phrases things - he should have been an author. I, like you, have witnessed, not many thankfully, people leaving this world. However, have you ever talked to people who have left and returned, as in technically been dead, but been brought back to life. Some have vivid experiences. The books I mentioned earlier on, while deep reading, explore all of this and while I still don't know what I think about these phenomena, I am sure there is more to it than we can understand.

I think the Human Race is incredibly bigoted when it thinks it has all the answers. I suspect and believe we know and understand only a tiny fraction of what there really is to know about ourselves, particularly when it comes to areas like the brain. When it comes to the universe, space, even as we understand it now, is uncomprehendable.

Those books reveal facts that one would never come across without taking a serious interest in these sort of matters. The pineal gland in the brain - it's not there for nothing, but almost nothing is known about it. It appears to account for much of the understanding, or lack of understanding, of these phenomena in people though.

All good stuff.

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I enjoyed this. Never experienced any of this stuff, myself, but I have always held the belief that - just because we cannot envisage or understand something - that is not proof that it does not exist. I pursued Christianity back in my 'hippie' years, and got 'dunked' twice at Baptist churches. I sought - but I did not find.

I now believe that true reality is NOT this temporal piece of space that we occupy here, but an immeasurably unimaginable realm where the physical constraints of time and space do not exist. Our glimpses of it - as I believe these phenomena to be - defy our primitive logic, of course.

So - I'm with Peter on this (I think), in that it defies our logic - but that in itself does NOT mean it is a load of old bull. I reckon there is no way that our feeble minds could understand the 'big picture' if we were able to see it from here. We make of it whatever we can, but we deny our own primitive intelligence if we dismiss it out of hand and without further investigation.

I relinquished my membership of the Flat Earth Society at about age 6, I think. It's still flat for most intents and purposes (as ably demonstrated by Mercator) - but the bigger picture (as seen from space) seems to prove otherwise, these days, doesn't it ? !!!

I enjoyed this. Never experienced any of this stuff, myself, but I have always held the belief that - just because we cannot envisage or understand something - that is not proof that it does not exist. I pursued Christianity back in my 'hippie' years, and got 'dunked' twice at Baptist churches. I sought - but I did not find.

I now believe that true reality is NOT this temporal piece of space that we occupy here, but an immeasurably unimaginable realm where the physical constraints of time and space do not exist. Our glimpses of it - as I believe these phenomena to be - defy our primitive logic, of course.

So - I'm with Peter on this (I think), in that it defies our logic - but that in itself does NOT mean it is a load of old bull. I reckon there is no way that our feeble minds could understand the 'big picture' if we were able to see it from here. We make of it whatever we can, but we deny our own primitive intelligence if we dismiss it out of hand and without further investigation.

I relinquished my membership of the Flat Earth Society at about age 6, I think. It's still flat for most intents and purposes (as ably demonstrated by Mercator) - but the bigger picture (as seen from space) seems to prove otherwise, these days, doesn't it ? !!!

I relaly do admire eloquence like this, yes that is exactly what i meant.

We cannot hope to understand something that our senses are not designed to appreciate.

We evolved in a particular anex of the universe.

I do however have problems with the belief that personality survives death, i have witnessed it change diminish and dissapear in the living so many times.

Peter,

[Bill-K]

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I enjoyed this. Never experienced any of this stuff, myself, but I have always held the belief that - just because we cannot envisage or understand something - that is not proof that it does not exist. I pursued Christianity back in my 'hippie' years, and got 'dunked' twice at Baptist churches. I sought - but I did not find.

I now believe that true reality is NOT this temporal piece of space that we occupy here, but an immeasurably unimaginable realm where the physical constraints of time and space do not exist. Our glimpses of it - as I believe these phenomena to be - defy our primitive logic, of course.

So - I'm with Peter on this (I think), in that it defies our logic - but that in itself does NOT mean it is a load of old bull. I reckon there is no way that our feeble minds could understand the 'big picture' if we were able to see it from here. We make of it whatever we can, but we deny our own primitive intelligence if we dismiss it out of hand and without further investigation.

I relinquished my membership of the Flat Earth Society at about age 6, I think. It's still flat for most intents and purposes (as ably demonstrated by Mercator) - but the bigger picture (as seen from space) seems to prove otherwise, these days, doesn't it ? !!!