General Election 2010 Thread

[Guest]

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But seriously, I agree Labour will get trounced, but can anyone really see the Tories getting back in given what they acheieved in the late 80s/early 90s?

Precisely what is it you think they did?

[Guest]

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Precisely what is it you think they did?

Well, as I am probably not quite old enough to remember directly - would have been in my early teens then, I seem to remember they too, created a boom and bust economy. MT ruined several industries, the main one being coal mining. Interest and inflation both shot up - as such, reposessions etc shot up.

Labour may not have been quite as bad, but they still seem to look after the rich and let the poor get on with it.

[Guest]

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Every single Labour Government we have ever had has left our economy in ruins.

MacDonald - ruins
Attlee - ruins
Wilson - ruins
Callaghan - ruins
Blair/Brown - ruins

The miners ruined their own industry because they were greedy. We could buy coal from Germany and Poland for less than we could dig it out of the ground. Did you know for example that the Heath Government was brought down by miners' strikes during the 1970s and this was caused by the NUM, who at their Annual Conference in 1971, decided to ask for a 43% pay rise, at a time when the Government were offering around 7-8%?

For some considerable time, the miners were the best paid industrial workers in the country and yet, Scargill brought them out on strike every winter when the country could not afford to withstand their extreme demands.

The Labour party have had long enough to prove it is a Party fit to govern and has comprehensively failed that test.

[scoobydoo]

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I would like the immigration debate be purely on numbers nothing to do with racism

I would like the benefits system to be seriously reviewed so that the money goes to those
genuinely in need. I especially resent young girls who get pregnant getting help with housing - IMO their families should take more responsibility

I do blame this government for letting the banking crisis get so bad and because of that , the war , the level of national debt, increasing red tape for small businesses, drugs policies ( among other things) I can not vote labour.

I am actively encouraging my children , nieces and nephews to vote as I do think it is important that we at least try to have opinions voiced ( it has not happened much recently)

Other than that I will listen to the live debates with interest to make my final decision.

And as for bringing Tony as support - what a load of rubbish - if Brown needs him for his campaign then what more is there to say.

[Guest]

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Every single Labour Government we have ever had has left our economy in ruins.

Well obviously I am only old enough to remember the Blair/Brown years so far as labour Governments go. 1997 I believe was my first vote in a general election.

However, I dont think Major did such a good job prior to Labour coming in.

[natweststaffmember]

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I do want to give Gordon Brown his dues. He is a good politician but unfortunately, I would say his style is not that of the modern era. The fact remains that when a government has been in power for more than 2 or 3 terms you become tired of it all. Of course, Neil Kinnock did most certainly write the book on How to LOSE an election.



I personally believe that the time for change is now and no matter how good some MP's in the Labour Party are, it is now time to change and it will be a Conservative one. I do believe people should vote.

[Guest]

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I personally believe that the time for change is now and no matter how good some MP's in the Labour Party are, it is now time to change and it will be a Conservative one. I do believe people should vote.

According to a poll conducted on a well known website, as of 7/4 at 7.55pm nearly 43% of people stated they would be voting Lib Dem. :tung:

[natweststaffmember]

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According to a poll conducted on a well known website, as of 7/4 at 7.55pm nearly 43% of people stated they would be voting Lib Dem. :tung:

If you are referring to the poll on here, this is a completely random poll and will be open until the day before the general election. You can vote more than once since that is one thing I left open and views may change once we have had the formal dissolution of parliament and we get to the live debates. At the moment, I haven't voted on the poll because I don't know as yet who I am voting for.

[Guest]

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Neil Kinnock did most certainly write the book on How to LOSE an election.

Watching that video, he DESERVED to lose - The Welsh flag is the wrong way rouond - facing east instead of west. Thats equivocal to blasphemy (well, maybe not quite).

[Guest]

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I do want to give Gordon Brown his dues. He is a good politician but unfortunately, I would say his style is not that of the modern era. The fact remains that when a government has been in power for more than 2 or 3 terms you become tired of it all. Of course, Neil Kinnock did most certainly write the book on How to LOSE an election.



I personally believe that the time for change is now and no matter how good some MP's in the Labour Party are, it is now time to change and it will be a Conservative one. I do believe people should vote.

The issue is not one of style, modern or otherwise. The only thing Gordon Brown is actually good at is lying. He has been remarkably successful in creating a myth about his record, based on his alleged intellect. He was an appalling Chancellor and he is an even worse Premier.

Every Labour government in living memory has run out of money and this one is no different. Labour's answer to every problem was simply to spend more money. After 2000, the government went on a huge spending spree, much of which went on inflating the Government's payroll. One result is that the Government's unfunded pension liabilities have ballooned and will become a potentially unaffordable bill for our children and grandchildren as well as ourselves.

While directors of public companies can go to jail for failing to disclose a company's unfunded liabilities, Brown's attitude is to keep them off the Government's books and to pretend the problem is not there.

The more Labour spend, spend, spend, the harder the poor will be hit when the day of financial reckoning comes - and it is coming. If you think you are poor now, then soon you are going to get poorer and get hit harder.

You will be able to thank Gordon Brown for that.

[Guest]

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If you are referring to the poll on here, this is a completely random poll and will be open until the day before the general election.

I was. I have been in a funny mood tonight - one thats changed to elation when United got knocked out (I am a l'pool supporter afterall).

As you say, there is a lot to be said, and a fair way to go and alot will change.

[PocketTheDifference]

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I Hope That conservs don't ever get in i reallt dont want them. UKIP it is then. Whats Fundementaly wrong with them? O would we rather BNP

[Sapphire]

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Here's the UKIP Manifesto

http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/UKIPManifesto2010.pdf

and the BNP's policies, they havn't done their manifesto yet

The British National Party Blog

have a read and see what you think.

[PocketTheDifference]

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Any chance of a small post of the manifesto, cannt access that site im afraid.

[Sapphire]

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What are particularly interested in ? ie Employment, Immigration, Law & order etc etc