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[miliitant]

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but they were not non democratic communist and facist states before the autocracy took over

they were taken over little by little, bit by bit

ignorance and apathy turned to prejudice and hate

germany during the thirties was more popular than paris for culture before the nazis closed down the indapendant newspapers

the point being is we do not let any form of legislating take root in a free press, that is no more than censorship

just be grateful we are able to have this debate and are not censored, this goverment has allready started censorship on the super highway by allowing eavesdropping on telephone and internet, and record them for up to 5 years.

control the media, control the people

slippery slope we are starting to go down by sleep walking again

[EXC]

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but they were not non democratic communist and facist states before the autocracy took over

they were taken over little by little, bit by bit

ignorance and apathy turned to prejudice and hate

germany during the thirties was more popular than paris for culture before the nazis closed down the indapendant newspapers

the point being is we do not let any form of legislating take root in a free press, that is no more than censorship

just be grateful we are able to have this debate and are not censored, this goverment has allready started censorship on the super highway by allowing eavesdropping on telephone and internet, and record them for up to 5 years.

control the media, control the people

slippery slope we are starting to go down by sleep walking again

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[miliitant]

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i respect peoples free speach, just as much as i expect people to respect mine

this thread is now degrading into personal insults and i will have no part of it

[Celestine]

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How is the press in Ireland, Canada, Australia, France, Germany etc regulated?

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i respect peoples free speach, just as much as i expect people to respect mine

this thread is now degrading into personel insults and i will have no part of it

Ssshhhh.....don't speak to loud....they're everywhere....you know who I mean......them....

[teaboy2]

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Agreed Militant. Seems if you disagree, your referred to as out of the loop, someone dreaming up reasons against it, or Paranoid!

Am against legislation full stop of the press in any form, i don't care how other countries regulate their press, as thats their business. So no matter what spin you put on it or what sob stories you come up with that were a result of journalist acting in breach of current privacy or libel laws. My opinion will not change!

If this legislation only did what you say it did, then why is their any need for it when the publishers have all agreed to sign up to an independant regulator without the need for said legislation! Therefore making said legislation irrelevant and unnecessary!

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How is the press in Ireland, Canada, Australia, France, Germany etc regulated?

Ireland has precisely the same regulatory model - underpinned by statute - that Leveson proposes. Most of the same newspaper publishers there are the same titles that publish here. By all accounts the system is an unmitigated success.

Ireland is a flourishing democracy and not an autocracy, nazi or communist state.

[teaboy2]

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Ssshhhh.....don't speak to loud....they're everywhere....you know who I mean......them....

So you act like a child, just because someone disagrees with your oipinion. Yeah how intelligent you are! or should i say arrogant, as that is what you are starting to act like in this thread! Insulting people just because they do not agree with you! Then you wonder why people argue back. This was a debate that has now turn sour, because one can not accept opinions of others.

I accept your opinion and repsect it just like militant does, but one most wonder what the point is in respecting your opinion when you clearly can not accept that others have a different one, and start making personal innuendos. Seriously Exc, i thought better of you than that!

And as i said before, i don't care what other countries do to regulate their press. I don't live their and its their own business. I don't agree with it, so i won't support any attempt to legislate it here in the UK. As for Ireland Flourishing. Well Debt Bail Out suggest otherwise. Not to mention their laws on abortions that cost the life of a mother to be, when they refused to terminate despite her request they did - Hardly a flourishing democarcy when a person begging for her life whilst miscarriaging is refused termination of her preganancy despite the fact Test revealed she would loose her baby anyway, instead being told "This is a catholic Country" sorry but when did religion take precedent over right to live! Yes i know its hardly an arguement to debate a countrys democracy. But it does beg to question whether its a floushing one as you described!

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If this legislation only did what you say it did, then why is their any need for it when the publishers have all agreed to sign up to an independant regulator without the need for said legislation!

I've already answered this twice.

If you genuinely want to know the answer, please read from paragraph 70 http://www.official-documents.gov.uk.../0779/0779.pdf

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I accept your opinion and repsect it just like militant does, but one most wonder what the point is in respecting your opinion when you clearly can not accept that others have a different one, and start making personal innuendos. Seriously Exc, i thought better of you than that!

Opinions are fine but they are worthless when they are based on errors of fact.

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Blimey

The Hacked Off petition has attracted 130,000 signatures in 4 days and by my calculation is set to beat the largest current No 10 petition (174.000 in 9 months) before it's a week old.

[dogtired]

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One word Watergate.

[Inca]

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[teaboy2]

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Opinions are fine but they are worthless when they are based on errors of fact.

On what errorneous facts? I made it clear from the start i was against legislation full stop, no fact is going to change that whether true or false! I do not believe in legislation of the press end off. My believe is not an errornous fact!

@Inca, I am sorry to hear what happened to your father, but there were avenues available, Libel Laws! He could have sued and such case would have been published in the press along with an apology! How would this new legislation have prevented them going after your father in the first place, it only deals with what happens to the press/jornalists when they do under an independant regulator - Which they have all agreed to be regulated by, without the need of legislation forcing them to be regulated by it!

[enaid]

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The debate on this now on tv is very informative oh and not present Cameron and his clone Osborne.