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Christians have no right to wear the Cross

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  • Christians have no right to wear the Cross

    How Dare They!!!

    Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government - Telegraph

    I must say that I agree with Delia:

    Growing anger among Christians will be highlighted today by Delia Smith, the television chef and practising Roman Catholic, who will issue a Lent appeal on behalf the Church’s charity, Cafod, accusing “militant neo-atheists and devout secularists” of “busting a gut to drive us off the radar and try to convince us that we hardly exist”.
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    Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

    Originally posted by Angry Cat View Post
    How Dare They!!!

    Christians have no right to wear cross at work, says Government - Telegraph

    I must say that I agree with Delia:

    So now we have the Govt acting as GOD. Will they ban the wearing of poppies at work during the week of rememberence??

    Sparkie

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    • #3
      Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

      You cannot wear poppies at any time whilst performing surgery in the NHS.

      One of the complainants worked in the NHS and the issue that they said was not the cross but the metal necklace it was attached to. I work in the NHS and wear my ID badge around my neck but the "necklace" so to speak will come off if pulled off or caught on something. They enforced this rule on the nurse albeit they could have perhaps worked with her to come up with a solution. As I said for that specific person it was not the cross but the necklace that was the problem and the only way to fight that is, you've guessed it, The Human Rights legislation.

      With regards to the other issue, the person worked for an airline, so I am not sure what their argument was apart from, it was not part of the uniform for work. Will be an interesting case.

      Glad we aren't arguing over the other case mentioned about two people refusing to either marry or give same sex relationship guidance to homosexuals cos I think we might have had quite an array of views on that matter
      "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
      (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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      • #4
        Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

        I am totally with Delia here. I understand fully the point made byLeclerc above, and would expect Christians to respect that, and any other religion to respect the need for sterility etc.. to have to take preference over their religion for short periods of time.

        It is the right of every individual to express their commitment to something, whether it be wearing a cross as a sign of Christian belief, or perhaps, for those of us who were married ina Church, wearing a ring as a sign of Christian marriage.

        For those ont married in a Church, wearing a ring as a sign of marriage.

        All cultures have many symbolisms as part of their beliefs, the business about it being an essential part of a culture doesn't wash too much with me. If people don't want, or aren't able to fit within the culture of this country for one reason or another, then perhaps they should consider whether they should be here. This is not intended to be racist in any way, or offensive towards anyone.

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        • #5
          Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

          Would this ban apply to the the clergy Archbishops Bisops etc their workplace is their parishes and the Church itself are they banned from wearing the cross in their place of work???
          Just me being precise and argumentative as usual.......but lets get it right.

          Sparkie

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          • #6
            Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

            Anyone got a giant wooden spoon for Sparkie? pmsl :beagle:

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            • #7
              Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

              They wont ban the Burka:
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ays-Green.html

              But want to ban the crucifix?

              I am RC like Delia and have worn a silver crucifix since I was a little child.
              And when my father died I put his crucifix and rosary into his coffin (both were given to him by his mother).

              Sorry, we do exist!!!

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              • #8
                Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                Ridiculous! I too wear a crucifix. My dad was a vicar, I've been brought up with Church all my life. I honestly don't know what I believe, but I wear it as it is made from the molten silver of my grandfather's pocket watch, and it's very sentimental.

                I am very tolerant of all creeds, but at the end of the day, you can't, in my opinion, have one rule for one faith and another for another. What about nuns? What about a Bishop visiting a hospital? What if the Queen, Head of the Church of England, visits wearing a crucifix - will she be asked to take it off?

                I know the arguments, I've considered the arguments, and in my case I'm afraid I've dismissed them. Again absolutely no offence intended to anyone of any colour or religion - my friends encompass all sorts of colours, religions and sexualities, and I love 'em all to bits!
                Last edited by labman; 11th March 2012, 17:55:PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                  Yes it’s the latest newspaper hobby horse, I think at the root of the hysteria is a genuine issue, but one that can easily be resolved by employers and legislators realising that rules cannot apply in all cases, sometimes there has to be acceptations.
                  I see the problem like this: A company says that all its employees must wear the company uniform with no other adornments. This is in the terms of your contract of employment, if you don’t want to accept those terms then you do not take the job. Fair enough?
                  Then you get a group of people whose religion says that they must dress a certain way. This means of course that they cannot be employed, but hang on a minute you cannot differentiate between people on the grounds of their religion (HRA).
                  So we end up with people who choose to dress in a certain way, but not as a requirement of their belief shouting unfair.
                  My opinion is that this problem, like 90% of problems like these are caused by some overly anal jobsworth not realising that some times rules are made to be bent a little.

                  Peter

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                  • #10
                    Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                    Dear sirs,

                    I totally agree with this ban.
                    They are a health hazard.

                    Yours sincerely,
                    Mr C Dracula
                    A Castle
                    Transylvania
                    CAVEAT LECTOR

                    This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                    You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                    Cohen, Herb


                    There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                    gets his brain a-going.
                    Phelps, C. C.


                    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                    The last words of John Sedgwick

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                    • #11
                      Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                      Dear Mr Dracula,

                      I am a blood donor, but wear a crucifix. May I ask your position on this?

                      Yours,

                      Mr Patient

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                      • #12
                        Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                        Originally posted by labman View Post
                        Dear Mr Dracula,

                        I am a blood donor, but wear a crucifix. May I ask your position on this?

                        Yours,

                        Mr Patient
                        Dear Mr Lunch......er, Patient,

                        Oy vey, meshugana, I think you've got the wrong vampire!,

                        Your obedient Master,
                        etc
                        CAVEAT LECTOR

                        This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                        You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                        Cohen, Herb


                        There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                        gets his brain a-going.
                        Phelps, C. C.


                        "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                        The last words of John Sedgwick

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                        • #13
                          Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                          LOL!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                            A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. Do you think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a ****in' cross? It's kind of like going up to Jackie Onassis with a rifle pendant on."
                            - Bill Hicks
                            ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                            Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                            Dear sirs,

                            I totally agree with this ban.
                            They are a health hazard.

                            Yours sincerely,
                            Mr C Dracula
                            A Castle
                            Transylvania
                            :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
                            Last edited by Brighton-cpe; 11th March 2012, 22:19:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                            • #15
                              Re: Christians have no right to wear the Cross

                              Gov.co.uk
                              need to be extremely careful about this issue.
                              As they will find that the christian electorate will rise up against them...enough is enough!

                              Many staunch conservatives are already regretting voting conservative.
                              Therefore, it would be unwise to test same on this extremely sensitive christian faith issue, as clearly many will be focused on the problems surrounding immigration in the UK.

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