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Can estate recover Dad’s funds from joint account passed to ex-wife by survivorship?

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  • Can estate recover Dad’s funds from joint account passed to ex-wife by survivorship?

    England and Wales

    Hello all,

    My siblings and I are beneficiaries of our late father’s estate, and one of us is the sole Executor. Our father had been divorced from his ex-wife for many years at the time of his death, and his Will made no provision for her. Probate was granted using a copy Will. The estate has not yet been distributed because the main asset is an unsold house and the ongoing costs are draining the estate rapidly.

    The issue concerns a joint current account which remained in both their names for years after the divorce, even though she had stopped using it long before then and had no cards or active access. After our father’s death, the bank treated the account as passing to her by survivorship and transferred sole control to her. However, the money in the account can be clearly traced as our father’s alone, from pension income, transfers from his savings, and rental income from tenancies in his sole name. There were also state pension payments received after his death which should have been repaid to the DWP and were ultimately covered from other estate funds.

    When first approached, the ex-wife refused to return the money unless the Executor could show that outstanding HMRC issues relating to undeclared rental income (from during their marriage) had been resolved and that HMRC would not pursue her. She said by phone that she would hold the money “just in case” and return it once those matters were sorted. We have now resolved the HMRC position and paid all the tax due, including that which should have been attributed to her, but she is refusing to return the funds and says she believes she is entitled to keep them on the basis of various costs she claims she incurred during their marriage (some of these were 10+ years old at the time of our father’s death). She has not, so far as we are aware, made any separate claim against the estate for money allegedly owed to her; instead, she is retaining the joint-account funds on the basis that she says they are hers. This has been ongoing since late 2023. The Executor also has clear documentary evidence tracing the source of all the funds and recording the ex-wife’s refusal to return them.

    The sum involved is a modest sum of several thousand pounds, plus the post-death pension payments. The estate is short of cash: the house remains unsold, and property costs, tax liabilities and legal fees have depleted most of the available funds. If the house does not sell, the estate may soon run out of money and the Executor and beneficiaries do not have funds to prop it up. Renting it is not an option.

    My question is whether the estate has a realistic claim to recover money from a joint account that legally passed by survivorship, where the funds can be shown to have beneficially belonged to the deceased alone. Can the post-death pension payments also be recovered from the surviving account holder? And would this usually be dealt with as a small claim? Is it worth it?

    My instinct is that we may have no practical remedy, but I would appreciate any views.

    Thank you.
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  • #2
    What you ask *may* be possible, but probably at significant expense, so this may not be cost effective.

    You would need to collate the full picture, starting with the divorce: what financial arrangements and court orders were made at that time? Your post gives the impression that nothing was done, which may be why no thought was given to the fact that this was and remained a joint account.

    How was the joint account operated? Did the lady pay into it or draw from it?

    There would probably be further questions as more information becomes available.
    Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

    Guides and handbooks for Litigants in Person - :

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    • #3
      The executor and beneficiaries do not have to "prop up" the estate.

      Get that house sold - ask estate agents for advice on the best way to market the property to achieve the best price within say 3 months.
      Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

      Guides and handbooks for Litigants in Person - :

      https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...60#post1701560

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      • #4
        Thank you for your rapid reply; it is much appreciated. Apologies for my slow one; I had to delve into all the paperwork to reply properly.

        We unfortunately have some missing documentation from the divorce. What we do have is a solicitor’s letter from late 2018 that shows that a separation agreement was reached under which my father’s ex-wife came off the title to the house, she retained the proceeds of her own property, and my father retained his house and the proceeds of another significant asset. The solicitor’s correspondence makes clear that this was intended to be a full and final financial settlement of claims arising from the marriage, including claims against each other’s estates after death. The solicitor proposed that, at the end of the divorce, a financial consent order in similar terms to the Agreement would be applied for. We also have email correspondence showing that both parties agreed on that basis, and that his ex-wife specifically wanted it recorded as a total and final settlement. In addition, my father later agreed to pay her share of the divorce costs.

        What we do not have is the signed separation agreement itself, and we have also found no evidence that a financial consent order was ever obtained at the end of the divorce. We do know for certain that she was taken off the title of the house however, but the house deeds are also missing.

        As to the joint account, it was my father’s only current account and had originally been used for day-to-day living expenses during the marriage (e.g. food, travel, eating out). However, his ex-wife stopped using it in November 2017, just before they separated in early 2018. We can see from the statements that she made no further payments or withdrawals after that point and had never paid anything into the account at any stage, even during the years they were together. The only money that was ever paid into the account came from my father’s pension income, transfers from his savings, and post-divorce rental income from his house.

        The divorce was finalised in late 2019, and my father died at the end of 2023. So, for six years before his death (November 2017 to November 2023), the account remained in joint names but was, in practical terms, being used solely by him and funded solely by him. We can also easily distinguish his wife’s earlier transactions because they appear in euros due to her home location. These ceased abruptly when they split, whereas my father’s continued in pounds sterling. Between their separation and his death, my father lived in the UK and never left the country. After his death, the ex-wife also claimed in writing (WhatsApp message) to have no knowledge that the account was still a joint account.

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        • #5
          You may be able to persuade a judge that the lady had no beneficial interest in the money in the joint account. Your chances of getting something will be easier if the money is still in the account. If it's gone, then you will have the added challenge of extracting money from her, wherever she happens to be.
          Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

          Guides and handbooks for Litigants in Person - :

          https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...60#post1701560

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          • #6
            Thank you. Yes… our time is probably better spent getting the house sold ASAP and reducing the period double council tax is applied.

            Thank you for your help though, I really appreciate your responses.

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