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  • T-Mobile and Identity theft

    Just thought I would share my recent experiences with t-mobile and the computer says no mentality !!

    I am apparently the proud new owner of a new t-mobile phone contract with a brand spanking new blackberry, sadly I have never had or requested a contract from T-Mobile.

    I contacted T-mobie immediately upon receiving a bill to ask what the hell had happened. They advised me I must have been the victim of identity theft and that the fraud office would be in touch. After much sweet talking to try and get some background information a very helpful lady went into the account and told me the account had been opened either online or over the phone, however near the end of the process when the fraudster asked for the handset to be sent to alternate address to the account address and was advised no the line went dead. When the sales dept tried calling back the mobile number that was supplied as the contact it went straight to a message service that wouldn't except voicemails, (call me silly but surely someone should have smelt a rat). At this point the person I spoke told me she shouldn't really be giving this information but that when the investigation was complete I would be able to contact the fraud office for further details (i am worried that it could be someone we know!!).

    Anyhow role forward to today, 2 letters from T-Mobile. Number 1 A letter telling me the account has been cancelled followed by the usual data protection stuff. Number statement saying I owe £3.46!!!

    Foolishly I thought I could ring up the number at the of the 1st letter (just below where it says fraud dept) and speak to someone in the fraud department. Oh how foolish am I ! The number was the none freephone central number for Everything Everywhere Ltd (T-Mobile and Orange), I duly asked for the fraud dept and was of course transferred to customer services. When I pointed out the mistake I was told the fraud department doesn't have phones (wow really in the 21st century at a mobile phone company). I countered this be explaining what I had been advised last time, I was told computer says no. At this point I am sure you can imagine a level of frustration creeping in. I asked for a manager to speak to, I was told he was busy. At this point I then decided to explain how a) as an account has been opened in my name then surely I am entitled to the information on who opened it and b) that a previous person I had spoke to had informed of what had happened re should the account really had been finalised. So to be quite frank go and get a manager now. At this point the ever efficient person asked me to hold and went to speak to someone. After 5 minutes on hold I was advised to go and speak to the police as they wouldn't be able to access the account to give me any further details (all as per their manager). I asked to speak to said manager, was told he was busy and would call me back, somewhat bemused I queried how they had just spoke to the manager if they aren't available to be advised he had just gone into a meeting! If I gave a time the manager would call me back within a 2 hour however he wouldn't be able to give me any further information as he wouldn't be able to access the account either. I asked who could access the account to be told no one, as I wasn't the account holder. That was unless I could give her the password setup for the account when the account was opened !!!!!! I told her I didn't have the password for obvious reasons but as I am the person named surely I can identify myself and then someone can look into the account, but I was told no because I had told them the account had been opened fraudulently so if she accessed the account she would be in breach of the data protection act !!!! At this point I gave up finally beaten down by the level of idiocy we have in these large organisations and I now await a phone call back from a customer service team manager who also cant help me.


    Anyhow if anyone is interested in what happens next I will let you know, also any thoughts on the fact that surely the account shouldn't have been finalised one the line went dead and no contact could be made on the supplied number!
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    Re: T-Mobile and Identity theft

    I am quite sure they must have recordings of any account set up over the phone in order to protect themselves from exactly what you're describing.

    I would be inclined to go to the police, but would also report the incident to OFCOM explaining everythhing and telling them that you believe they intentionally completed the fraudulent setting up of an account,, knowing there was something wrong.

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    • #3
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      Ofcom is definitely a good idea not sure if I would be wasting my time with the police. I know unless I don't have a lot more information they won't do anything from previous experience.

      Just to explain about 6 years ago my mum got a new mobile phone contract but her old one still had 1 month left with free minutes left on it so gave the sim to my wife to use them up. Long story short when she was swapping sims around she dropped the sim card. She realised about a day later it was missing but just thought it had been dropped somewhere in the house. Role forward 1 month and my mum got a phone bill for £10,000 (that isn't an exaggeration it was just a little bit more than that) Obviously at this point we had no idea what happened so we went straight to the police to say a fraud had been committed. At first they were not interested at all, then when I eventually suggested maybe it had been stolen from the house they gave us a crime number but still didn't investigate !!!!!

      In the end my wife and I spent hours going through the phone bill and after many phone calls noticed there were lots of calls to 2 different numbers, 1 a local residential number and another the benefits office. We eventually took all of this information back to the police and they decided to do some work. Came back to us a few days later says they had located the individual but as he had found it on the floor outside local supermarket so no real crime !!!!. My response to this was to ask if I go outside put my credit card on the floor someone picks it up and uses it isn't that fraud, they said yes and eventually conceded this was the same thing.

      Anyhow the person in question got prosecuted got a slap on the wrist and in the end we spent 6 months fighting o2 getting them to write of the debt, they eventually did.


      In case you are wondering apparently the whole family where using the sim card to ring up pay competitiion lines on night time tv at god knows how much per minute, and the bill was near 100 pages long for 1 month.

      As you can tell I have had no luck with mobile phone companies !!!
      Last edited by mpc1975; 25th May 2011, 14:33:PM. Reason: can't spell doh!

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      • #4
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        Ok update for you, as I am sure you guessed the manager didn't ring me back no surprise there, so after a few hours I called t-mobile back. This time I managed to get someone who was very helpful and understanding. Firstly he confirmed there was no number for the fraud department, but they had a fax I could send my questions to and they would call me. But to assist with this he accessed the account to give me some background information on the account being opened (amazing without even asking for a password!) Anyhow at this point the plot really thickens. I had to confirmed to me what I already knew about the phone call not being completed. But more than this he told me the account was opened through telereg (?) and that to do this the person opening the account would have to supply a credit or debit card for a small transaction to be done against. However there was no record of a card number on the system and also no bank details for bill payments. So this now really begged a lot of questions about t-mobiles security checks.

        Anyhow in response to all of this I thought enough was enough and sent an email to the CEO, and amazingly within 2 hours of the email being sent I had customer complaints on the phone to me advising me an investigation was being done and they would call me back after the bank holiday weekend (might have something to with me threatening to report them to every official body in the land if I didn't get a response). So hopefully I might finally be able to get some answer as to what happened .......

        Lesson learnt from this, the higher up the ladder you complain the quicker the response!

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