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  • Electricity Act needs to be occupied

    Greetings!

    Had 2 letter come though the door. bough from eon saying i own them 2677.56 for some thing not mentioned and saying they will get a warrant to enter property with lock smith if I do not contact them with in 7 days (7 days now gone!)


    The other letter says "Electricity Act needs to be occupied"
    I looked that up at the goverment web site and cant find any thing so can any one please explain what it is?

    Thanks
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  • #2
    You could ask the writer of the other letter to explain whether they mean the Electricity Act 1989, the Electricity Act 1972, the Electricity Act 1957 or some other legislation, and also to specify the exact provisions within that legislation on which they rely.
    Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by atticus View Post
      You could ask the writer of the other letter to explain whether they mean the Electricity Act 1989, the Electricity Act 1972, the Electricity Act 1957 or some other legislation, and also to specify the exact provisions within that legislation on which they rely.
      I did not relise that there where so many acts, it now seams to me as they are just making it all up to frighten us and to show off there athority. I mean in common terms, is it really going to be illegal for a property to be vacant?

      I mean there is not even a name on the card of who or where to write to. There sending a bill for 2.6K to the occupier. I mean who is the occupier. Do I occupiee the property because i carry out work on it

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      • #4
        It might be helpful if you explain what is going on here.

        1. Do you have any connection with this property other than that you are working on it?

        2. How long have you had that connection?

        3. What do these letters actually say?

        Lawyer (solicitor) - retired from practice, now supervising solicitor in a university law clinic. I do not advise by private message.

        Guides and handbooks for Litigants in Person - :

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JimAllFixIt View Post
          I mean in common terms, is it really going to be illegal for a property to be vacant?
          No it is not going to become illegal. If a property is vacant then it is likely the owner is liable to pay the electricity bill while it is unoccupied if the electricity is still connected. Are you the owner?

          As asked above, please post on here a copy of all the letters you have received. Cover up any information like addresses or eon reference numbers that might identify the property.

          Are all the letters addressed just to "the Occupier" or are any of them addressed to you by name?
          All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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          • #6
            sorry i dont have the paper work with me as its in the office and I am now away for christmas

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            • #7
              OK but you can still answer atticus's questions about your relationship to the premises, are you the owner, how long have you been connected to the premises etc.
              All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
                OK but you can still answer atticus's questions about your relationship to the premises, are you the owner, how long have you been connected to the premises etc.
                yes i am the owner of the property. had it about 3 months now

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                • #9
                  We need to see the letters when you can access them but in the meantime is the situation that you are the owner of the premises but no-one is living there?

                  Is it a commercial or residential premises?

                  Did you take a meter reading as soon as you became the owner?

                  As owner of an unoccupied premises you should have notified Eon and set up an account in your name as you are responsible for paying Eon for electricity used and standing charges.

                  All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post

                    Is it a commercial or residential premises?
                    residential

                    Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
                    Did you take a meter reading as soon as you became the owner?
                    No I did not; but can take it when i get back as will more then likely be the same anyway

                    Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
                    As owner of an unoccupied premises you should have notified Eon and set up an account in your name as you are responsible for paying Eon for electricity used and standing charges.
                    I have no interest in them or there services! we have not started work in there yet but when we do we dont need lights as we work day light hours. nor do we need electric as our tool are all battery charged up in the office and we have our own space haters. As far as i am concerned they can come and take the meter out, and up to next tenant what they do after that

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JimAllFixIt View Post
                      I have no interest in them or there services! we have not started work in there yet but when we do we dont need lights as we work day light hours. nor do we need electric as our tool are all battery charged up in the office and we have our own space haters. As far as i am concerned they can come and take the meter out, and up to next tenant what they do after that
                      Let us see the letters as soon as you have them. I imagine that because they don't know you are the new owner they are chasing you for unpaid bills of the previous occupier/owner. They should back off if you provide them with the proof of when you became owner and give them your estimate of meter reading when you became owner.

                      But as owner you will still be responsible for the standing charges from date you became owner even if you used zero electricity. I'd guess that with eon that's something like £15 a month. You can ask them to disconnect the supply at the meter and then you will not incur further standing charges. Most electricity companies make a charge to do that though, and also a charge if/when you want it reconnected.

                      All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post

                        Let us see the letters as soon as you have them. I imagine that because they don't know you are the new owner they are chasing you for unpaid bills of the previous occupier/owner. They should back off if you provide them with the proof of when you became owner and give them your estimate of meter reading when you became owner.

                        But as owner you will still be responsible for the standing charges from date you became owner even if you used zero electricity. I'd guess that with eon that's something like £15 a month. You can ask them to disconnect the supply at the meter and then you will not incur further standing charges. Most electricity companies make a charge to do that though, and also a charge if/when you want it reconnected.
                        I would just like to add something! that the electric is cut off from from the fuse, so there is no supply to the meter what so ever, so i dont see why i should have to pay them any rental fee on the meter

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                        • #13
                          When you say cut off at the fuse, have you removed the main fuse or is there an isolator switch? It’s not relevant for the purposes of the standing charge because if there is a supply which is swirtch-on-able without the electricity co doing it then the standing charge applies. However the DNO May take umbrage if they find out you have removed their sealed main fuse. There can be financial penalties for that. By the way it is landlords responsibility to ensure a safe electricity supply prior to any tenancy commencing including an up to date certificatie of electrical safety so if you do get them to disconnect you to avoid a standing chaerge during renovations you’ll have to sort out reconnection before you can let it. Probably cheaper to just sort out paying the standing charge.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tofros View Post
                            When you say cut off at the fuse, have you removed the main fuse or is there an isolator switch? It’s not relevant for the purposes of the standing charge because if there is a supply which is swirtch-on-able without the electricity co doing it then the standing charge applies. However the DNO May take umbrage if they find out you have removed their sealed main fuse. There can be financial penalties for that. By the way it is landlords responsibility to ensure a safe electricity supply prior to any tenancy commencing including an up to date certificatie of electrical safety so if you do get them to disconnect you to avoid a standing chaerge during renovations you’ll have to sort out reconnection before you can let it. Probably cheaper to just sort out paying the standing charge.
                            No there are 2 main fuses that where taken out. and i think i own them and not the DNO

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JimAllFixIt View Post

                              No there are 2 main fuses that where taken out. and i think i own them and not the DNO
                              further more i have the right to carry out electrical work in the property safety, which would mean taking the fuses

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